Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ted Grant wrote: M'mmmm really Scott? And how many times have you for real done this? Like I'm talking about a police officer whom you have annoyed by facial expression or verbal? Or whatever? ------------- I will not be verbose.... I will not be verbose.... :-) Exactly two times. A bad thing happened with LE. Dad and I made several calls, people were polite, but said they couldn't help us without a badge number. That's when I learned the lesson when I was 20 or 21 years old. Once at a political rally, another at a train station. Nothing bad happened in either case, I speculate for different reasons in each case. A 3rd time was preempted/diffused by a female officer just suddenly walking away. But I didn't annoy anyone with a facial expression, my demeanor or anything, so I don't know if these cases meet your criteria. Your point on consequences is well reasoned and well taken. One has to dial in one's own stance on these matters or on a case by case basis. Scott p.s. Really, I like conflict. I'm *super* nice 99.9% of the time, but given a a conflict situation, I find I cannot resist retaliatory response. I may have something called "Intermittent Explosive Disorder." TBD I'm not suicidal, lit. or fig. though, so I have never freaked out on LE (thank my stars). I'm always *extremely* cordial to LE, and I have no problem with rules - I *like* rules. But aside from IED, I've legally harmed or threatened many, many people who have challenged me over the years. I'm not a gentle soul; I'm just as comfortable being cruel in defense of my perceived interests. It's just the way I am. I don't like LE in general, and I've stated so here on the LUG in the past. "Lower class thugs with guns." It's in the archives, I presume. Just one example we all saw on television: http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/Aug/20050831News017.asp Pick your own favorites; there are so very, very many of them. As for riding in police cars, one has to dial in one's own tolerance for consequences as you've said. I've dialed in my own more than once in the past. I'm 40. I figure I have ~15 more years to be confrontational with people. Then I'll have to resort even more to lawyers and to furiously writing letters to the editor ;-) In the meantime, my father always worries that someone is going to shoot me :-) Such is life. Ted Grant wrote: > > M'mmmm really Scott? And how many times have you for real done this? > Like I'm talking about a police officer whom you have annoyed by > facial expression or verbal? Or whatever? > > The act of writing down the officer's badge number in itself while > he's watching you do it, is an act of aggression and antagonizing him! > So why bother because if one knows what they're doing, whether you > agree with the police or not is... be polite and it's "yes sir I'm > outta here!" > > I've seen too many news photographers claiming their right to show the > public argue that right into the back seat of a cruiser! No pictures > while those of us who know how to deal politely with police and > security people walked away, found a better shoot position, pulled out > a 300 or 400mm lens and got all the pictures we needed while numb nuts > brain dead impolite idiot didn't get any from the back seat of the cop > car! > > ted > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Pics @ http://www.adrenaline.com/snaps Leica M6TTL, Bessa R, Nikon FM3a, Nikon D70, Rollei AFM35 (Jihad Sigint NSA FBI Patriot Act)