Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/13

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Video of M8
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Wed Sep 13 13:20:14 2006

Ernie,

Whats the problem?  Youv'e had an outdated M film camera, and now you can 
have an outdated M Digital camera.  ;-)  I'll get one, just as soon as I 
convince SWMBO to let me spend the next 4 months rent on it!  ;-)

Gene


-------------- Original message from "e. nitka" <enitka1@comcast.net>: 
-------------- 


> 
> I looked at the video - the M8 looks glorious but............ it's a 
> piece of computer equipment with a lens attached and as such it will 
> become outdated in the next 24-36 months. This is a radical 
> departure for Leica..... the M series for the last 30 years was 
> already outdated and static for the most part. That WAS the nice 
> part about the M series. As it turns out I don't even have the money 
> to pay the sales tax on the upcomming M8 but even if I did I would be 
> leery of spending so much ( as an amateur) on such a camera. Just my 
> $0.02. I'm not anti- digital but for now I'm satisfied with my 
> Pentax DSLR. Just my two cents. 
> 
> ernie nitka 
> 
> 
> At 03:42 AM 9/13/2006, you wrote: 
> >I agree with everything Scott said. :-D 
> > 
> >I still haven't bought a digital camera. I'm enjoying using Fuji's 
> >wonderful slide films more and more. No colour management problems. 
> >No computer hardware and software problems. No storage problems. No 
> >data losses. No steep learning curve on image processing. No huge 
> >up-front costs for equipment that is soon superseded. Just ongoing 
> >enjoyment of a technology that has matured to provide superb 
> >performance. 
> > 
> >Sure, I'll buy digital bodies in time. I'm looking forward to it. 
> >I'm waiting until the technology is mature, i.e. better, more 
> >convenient and cheaper than the film in every respect. ;-) 
> > 
> >Rick. 
> > 
> >http://gallery.leica-users.org/Nature 
> > 
> >On 13/09/2006, at 3:00 PM, Scott McLoughlin wrote: 
> > 
> >>Jeff Moore wrote: 
> >> 
> >>>[snip] 
> >>> 
> >>>Yeah, point-N-shoots. Remember how I said I dislike SLRs? I hate 
> >>>point-n-shoots all the more. Once again, that hasn't kept me from 
> >>>keeping one in a pocket or bag, but... you just don't know where the 
> >>[snip] 
> >> 
> >>I agree with everything Jeff said. 
> >> 
> >>I'll just add that while I use a DSLR alongside my M's, for a small 
> >>pocket 
> >>camera, I much prefer to simply shoot good old 135 format film. 
> >>No "small sensor, noise, EVF, shutter lag, yada yada" crap to put 
> >>up with. 
> >>Just shooting a film P&S is so much easier and, in the general 
> >>case, yields 
> >>so much higher quality results - on good old 135 format film - than 
> >>nearly 
> >>any P&S digicam. 
> >>Use one's film of choice - Delta 100, Provia 100, TriX, NPH, 
> >>whatever floats 
> >>your boat. Get over it, and just pay for the film and processing. 
> >>This "cost" 
> >>didn't stop any pro or serious amateur photographers in years past, 
> >>so why 
> >>should it now? Is the universe of photographers getting poorer or 
> >>something? 
> >> 
> >>I've now purchased 2 digicams as presents for family members, and I've 
> >>coached a few other friends and family through a digicam purchase 
> >>of their 
> >>own. 
> >>But I have absolutely NO intentions of using such a digicam 
> >>myself. No 
> >>thanks. 
> >>Whatever their strengths and weaknesses, my Rollie AFM35 or my Oly 
> >>Stylus Epic have produced many, many nice "keepers" - on good old film 
> >>that I can scan and print or choose to have wet printed at quite 
> >>handsome 
> >>enlargements. 
> >> 
> >>Personally, given the current crop of small sensor digicams, I just 
> >>don't see 
> >>any real point to using one. 
> >> 
> >>Scott 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>-- 
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> >>(Jihad Sigint NSA FBI Patriot Act) 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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