Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Scott, Mostly lots of R&D as well as the legacy of the speed wars of the fifties and the sixties. It should be easier to design a fast really wide lens for a small sensor but I suspect the MBA types ran a spreadsheet to demonstrate that they would have to sell X thousand lenses and the marketing types couldn't commit to those numbers. Don don.dory@gmail.com On 9/10/06, Scott McLoughlin <scott@adrenaline.com> wrote: > > I've been wondering - is the 135 film format magic somehow? > It gives us 20/2.8, 135/2, diminutive 40/1.4 lenses and so > on and so forth. > > Surfing around MF gear, an f2.8 normal lens seems "fast," > and we can forget LF stuff. > > And on small sensors, really fast wide lenses doesn't seem > a reality. > > Is this a particular "feature" of the 135 film format, or just > that lots of lens R&D was dumped into such a popular format? > > Scott > > Don Dory wrote: > > > B.D. > > You and I represent the far end of the curve as it relates to typical > > use. > > Even journalist are using flash(war zones excepted). Because I use > > the 50 > > more than any other focal length the transition to the 35 Summilux > > will not > > be a problem except in the wallet. But for folks like you that eat up > > the > > 28 F2 the lack of fast wides will keep you away possibly. Which is why > I > > posted the problem about fast wides for a 1.3X sensor. > > > > With all that said, I suspect that the usefulness of 3200 will be there > > whether as a RAW conversion or just bootleg 1600 underexposed and just > > deal > > with it. > > > > Photographically, we live in very interesting times. > > > > Don > > don.dory@gmail.com > > > > > > On 9/10/06, B. D. Colen <bd@bdcolenphoto.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> If shooting at 800 and 1600 eliminates the need for fast glass, why > have > >> so > >> many of us invested so much in fast glass over the years, given that we > >> routinely shoot at 800 and 1600? > >> > >> > >> On 9/10/06 9:02 PM, "Don Dory" <don.dory@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > Leica faces an interestin conundrum. If they bite the bullet and > make > >> > lenses for cropped sensors they will relcaim the small camera/high > >> > performance position they held in the thirties and beyond. However, > >> > thousands of Leicanistas will shriek in rage at being betrayed. > >> So, in > >> all > >> > probablity no F1.4 26mm lens or for that matter no 21mm f2 lens. > >> > > >> > On the bright side, the ability to shoot at 800 to 1600 ameliorates > >> the > >> need > >> > for fast lenses as far as capturing the image but we still have > issues > >> with > >> > limiting DOF intentionally. On the down side, I am going to have to > >> bite > >> > the bullet and acquire a 35 F1.4 as the 50mm perspective is the one I > >> use > >> > most. Possibly the C/V 40mm F1.4 with the crop the edges won't > >> matter. > >> > > >> > Don > >> > don.dory@gmail.com > >> > > >> > > >> > On 9/10/06, Aram Langhans <dnaplasmid@compwrx.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> 35! 32! 37! What's a few millimeters among friends??? > >> >> Aram > >> >> > >> >>> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:04:45 -0400 > >> >>> From: Stan Yoder <vze2myh5@verizon.net> > >> >>> Subject: [Leica] M8 lens dilemma > >> >>> To: lug@leica-users.org > >> >>> Message-ID: <45047DED.7050007@verizon.net> > >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >> >>> > >> >>> So what are yunz (Pittsburghese for 'you-all') planning to do for > >> the > >> >>> equivalent of a 35 on a film M? > >> >>> > >> >>> The 24 Elmarit-ASPH becomes a 32, and a 28 becomes a 37. > >> >>> > >> >>> Stan Yoder > >> >>> The Burgh > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Leica Users Group. > >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> >> > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > -- > Pics @ http://www.adrenaline.com/snaps > Leica M6TTL, Bessa R, Nikon FM3a, Nikon D70, Rollei AFM35 > (Jihad Sigint NSA FBI Patriot Act) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >