Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Scott, Did I say "Cost" or "Cost/Benefit"? Your first three points make my case - it is for rich amateurs, for those who buy Hermes ties - if it is of any solace to you, I buy a lot of their ties, its part of my professional get up, and therefore it is essential. But show me where the DMR is in use professionally extensively (there are always a few odd exceptions) . Any guy wanting to use Leica R lenses would logically do so on a Canon body, which gives him overall maximum flexibility. I think the first reason why Leica's cameras get bought is that it is a part of the owners image (especially the a la carte stuff), and not as a professional tool - like a Patek Philippe watch or a Montblanc pen (or Hermes ties!!). It is a perfectly valid reason to own something, but for some strange reason, people dont accept that as their prime motivation... Cheers Jayanand Govindaraj Scott McLoughlin wrote: > Wow, you're big on the whole "how much it costs" thing. > > I really do think this is an admirable quality!!!! Many of our > proud, too highly leveraged U.S. consumers could use a healthy > dose of thrift :-) > But different folks find themselves in different economic > situations, especially regarding different things and how they > value them. > > So there are some folks (1) for whom cost is not an issue or > (2) for whom cost is an issue, but starting a higher price points > or (3) for whom cost is not an issue, but only for a select > few product segments in their overall spending habits and of > course (4) for whom nearly any incremental improvement is > very worthwhile, say, professionally, and therefore cost be > damned. > > I hope that makes sense. I guess one could say that whether > or not a DMR is important and worth it depends very much on > the person, their economic resources, what they value and > hence, how they allocate those resources. > > Scott > > p.s. Over on photo.net, when folks would continually ask whether > or not they "should" buy a Leica, I always chimed in that reason > #1 should be "I can afford it." Then it's safe to consider the other > reasons. > > > > Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > >> Dont you think, in the world of professional photography (Doug Herr >> excepted), that the DMR is irrelevant? If cost/benefit does not enter >> an equation, then it is just an instrument for rich amateurs to gush >> over each other, like Linn turntables or Lamborghinis - a status >> symbol, to be sold at a high price, in low quantities, to keep the >> cachet alive. Classic Hermes marketing. I have yet to read a >> comparision of the DMR with anything anywhere, either in print or >> online, in a non specialist site. A Leica rangefinder is pretty >> unique, a Leica SLR much less so. >> Cheers >> Jayanand Govindaraj >> Chennai, India >> >> David Young wrote: >> >>> Felix wondered: >>> >>> >>>>> What's the nature of the difference >>>>> > between the DMR and a D70/D200? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cost? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> There is, obviously, a firmware difference between the Nikon and >>> Leica digital cameras/backs. I like the colouring of both, though >>> the DMR seems to be closer to a Kodachrome... more muted colours >>> than,say, Fujichrome, but a wee bit more accurate, too. >>> >>> But the HUGE difference is that every APS-C format digital SLR out >>> of Japan has an Anti-Alaising filter, to reduce Moire patterns in >>> the photos. The DMR, in keeping with it's MF format heritage (it >>> was designed my Imacon - the big 6x6 camera back maker), does not >>> have one, and used software to solve the problem, if need be. As AA >>> filters work by making the final image a bit "fuzzier" (for lack of >>> a better word) the DMR will deliver much finer detail than any of >>> the Japanese DSLRs - pixel for pixel. >>> >>> As a result, the DMR is most often compared with the 16 mpixel Canon >>> 1DS MkII, in terms of resolution. Not bad for a 10.2 mpixel camera >>> back. :-) >>> >>> And, of course, the DMR accepts Leica glass. True, the Canon's will >>> do that, with an appropriate adapter, but only with stop down >>> metering and no auto-diaphragm. >>> >>> And when you compare the 1 DS MkII, to the Leica R9 with DMR, even >>> new, the Leica is not a lot more, so I'm not sure cost enters into >>> an "apples to apples" comparison. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> >>> David Young, >>> Logan Lake, CANADA >>> >>> Wildlife Photographs: http://www.telyt.com/ >>> Personal Web-pages: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >