[Leica] Another famous photographer went

[h_arche at yahoo.com (H. Ball Arche)]

Holy Crap.
Hoppy, just don't go there (Capa images)- take my word
for it. Look in the archives if you want to see this
one chewed up one side and down the other.

--- G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> B.D. I have read the several posts with great
> interest, and now have the
> facts straight on this one. Importantly, as you
> noted, I wasn't deriding
> either Rosenthal's work nor the bona fides of the
> participants.
> What the posts tell me is that the image of the
> second flag raising rightly
> became a very powerful image in support of the just
> cause.
> 
> Does anyone care to contribute regarding the Capa
> images that I mentioned?
> I shall try to locate the reference to post for the
> story regarding the
> damage to his D Day images. Also, I would be
> interested in any comments
> regarding the Gen McArthur coming ashore reference.
> 
> Cheers
> Hoppy
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another famous photographer
> went
> 
> Of course as Rosenthal said at one point, if the
> famous photo had been
> "staged," he would have made damn sure that the five
> marines and one
> corpsman were looking at the camera, so that he
> could id them left to right
> and attach home towns...:-)
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/21/06 3:38 PM, "Walt Johnson"
> <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think Greg hit it right on the head and B.D.
> missed the boat a bit in
> > his earlier post. It's been so long since I did
> any marching all those
> > stories are foggy. And hell, I never marched that
> damned good any way. 8-)
> > 
> > Walt.
> > 
> > GREG LORENZO wrote:
> > 
> >>> hoppyman@bigpond.net.au writes:
> >>> 
> >>> Walt, regarding those particular fighting men, I
> seem to recall a
> >>> documentary saying that the famous photo was in
> fact a restaging of the
> >>> actual event, similar to Gen McArthur wading
> ashore more than once. I
> see no
> >>> cloned smoke clouds though!
> >>>    
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Hoppy,
> >> 
> >> The famous photo is the second one made that day
> by Joe Rosenthal. The
> flag
> >> used in the original photo was deemed to be too
> small so a second, larger
> >> flag was obtained from an officer on a ship
> offshore for the 2nd iconic
> >> image. In that sense it was 'staged' but this was
> done to enable both the
> >> remaining Japanese and American marines fighting
> to secure the landing
> strip
> >> and remainder of the island to see that the US
> had taken Mt. Suribachi
> before
> >> they had in-fact 'secured it'.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> Greg
> 
> 
> 
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