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Subject: [Leica] Interesting 50mm variation (eBay shame?)
From: ricc at mindspring.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Wed Aug 2 20:16:16 2006
References: <000601c6b6a9$d4060390$6401a8c0@asus930>

On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:06 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Ric, really, you've never been tempted?

Oh, lord, yea.


> As you will read it is a VERY large marketplace.
> It also makes available quite a deal of gear that you might  
> otherwise not
> see. (Especially if you live away from the big population areas, or
> countries)! My personal rule is that I would hope to pay say 20% or  
> more
> less than a shop price. Occasionally you might score a real bargain  
> or be
> happy to pay more for an item you really desire. That's all part of  
> the
> adventure.
> There are various tutorials on getting started. The best way is to  
> just sign
> up for free and browse to your heart's content until you are  
> comfortable
> with how it all works firstly. Pick an item type of interest, do a  
> search
> and watch as many auctions for it as you want. You will soon see  
> trends.
> Bidding wise, often most of the activity is at the very end. There are
> various strategies.
> Treat it like a big garage sale where you might find a bargain and  
> also
> accept that there is higher risk of buying a disappointment.
> The most common payment method, although not universal, is PayPal.  
> Basically
> you set up an account with them with a legitimate e-mail address,  
> and at
> least one bank account/credit card linked to it. There are reasonable
> safeguards, but it's not bullet-proof. That might be said regarding  
> any
> on-line shopping. You need to be comfortable with this for yourself.
> The convenience for buyer and seller is that it's a very fast and  
> reliable
> means of money swapping hands. There are fees for selling and  
> commissions on
> PayPal payments.
>

Is there some protection from fraud?

I guess, my concern isn't the technical process, but a wariness of  
fraud.

Thanks

Ric


> The basic premise is that most people genuinely want to trade with  
> good will
> and honesty. There is a feedback system that reflects the trader's  
> history.
> A genuine eBay member will progressively build a good reputation.
>
> Be warned it can be quite habit forming. Three years ago, I shopped  
> for a
> replacement slr for one I lost in the 80's. 212 buys later, I'm  
> still going!
>
>
> Some people have had bad experiences, certainly. I can only quote  
> from my
> own. I have NEVER lost a parcel (many of them from USA, Canada etc  
> to here
> in Australia). I have been disappointed with only three items out  
> of my
> totals so far. I have also saved hundreds of dollars and acquired  
> gear I
> would never have located otherwise.
> Best of luck checking it all out.
>
> Cheers
> Hoppy
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On  
> Behalf Of
> Ric Carter
> Sent: Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:33
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Interesting 50mm variation (eBay shame?)
>
> Okay, Hoppy.
>
> You've got me thinking. I've never bought anything from that site.
> I'm just chicken s*** with my money.
>
> How does one shop safely there? Is there a way to pretty much
> guarantee safe transactions?
>
> Thanks to any of you for advice.
>
> Ric Carter
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/Passing-Fancies
>
>
>
> On Aug 2, 2006, at 8:38 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> John,
>> 1.   Did Oscar Wilde have a good feedback rating?
>> 2.   May I borrow your pseudonym on occasion?
>> 3.   I've got 27 items on my watch list today and five items in transit
>>
>> Cheers
>> My name is Hoppy and I'm an eBaholic
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Interesting 50mm variation (eBay shame?)
>>
>> At one time the word eBay in a message to LUG would result in the
>> message not reaching the list. That filter is no longer active but
>> some people got into the habit of using pseudonym. I use "the auction
>> site that dare not say its name" as I am fond of Oscar Wilde. I plan
>> on continuing to do so for the same reason.
>>
>> John Collier
>>
>> On 2-Aug-06, at 10:48 AM, David Keenan wrote:
>>
>>> What is there to be ashamed of???
>>
>>
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