Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/07/24

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Subject: [Leica] Taylor's GR Digital
From: r.s.taylor at comcast.net (Richard S. Taylor)
Date: Mon Jul 24 08:07:44 2006
References: <20060724143535.23215.qmail@web32514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Tom P. - I haven't made any prints from these files yet but from what 
I've seen so far the noise is not a major issue though there are some 
limitations.  In color at ISO 1600 the noise is ugly as sin, but in 
B&W it's perfectly acceptable.  At 800 the color noise is OK.

The visibility of the noise depends on the subject, too. In the shot 
of my son it's not an issue at all.  In the shot of the Vivian 
Beaumont, it catches my eye and I would be tempted to run that file 
through Noise Ninja if I was going to get serious about the image.  .

This business of what's acceptable depends highly on your frame of 
reference and I think reviewers, now having seen such exceptional 
results at ISO 3200 in some cameras, think anything less is 
unacceptable, period.   Major mistake.  It all depends on the viewer, 
the size of the print, the expectations of the photographer and 
probably a few other things, too.

You know, my first reaction to the camera, particularly after I 
snapped the optical finder on it, was to think of the old Model-O. 
It's tiny in comparison to the best cameras of the day, it uses much 
smaller "film," which is going to be relatively  grainy, but it seems 
to have good optics, is fast operating and different.  Let's just see 
what we can do with it!

Now, if it just had interchangeable lenses...

Dick




>    Thank you, Richard, for sharing the GR Digital
>photos.  I own the film camera counterpart, and
>because I think it is wonderful I have been tempted to
>try the digital model.  I was stopped, however, by a
>review that said one starts to see ugly noise by ISO
>200.  Your images seem to disprove that.  I see no
>appreciable noise until ISO 800 and at that level, and
>even at ISO 1600, the noise looks like the grain one
>might expect with film of that speed -- not ugly at
>all.  Given the other pictures you have taken and not
>posted, do you agree noise is well controlled?
>    Tom P.
>
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-- 
Regards,

Dick

In reply to: Message from etruscello at yahoo.com (Tom Pastorello) ([Leica] Taylor's GR Digital)