Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hie yourself to the Forum. Jack C. Herron 8118 E. 20th St. Tucson, AZ 85710 520 885-6933 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chandos Michael Brown" <chandos@cox.net> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: RE: [Leica] was: did I miss a fight? NOW snapshots and criticism BS, Sonny, I well remember when I commented on a photo of yours, remarking that the complexions of its subject were a bilious green, and your response was that color balance was "subjective." I realized then that those of us who work at a calibrated workflow and actually care about this are wasting our time talking to you. What I object to is the apparent assumption on your part that your "subjectivity" is somehow worthy of sustained attention. In my view it is not. And believe me, I know how to use a delete key and a filter; your "Friday Flowers" go instantly to the delete file. And where do you get off telling me, or anyone else for the matter, what the LUG is and isn't? I don't much give a s*** why people come to your collections or why they do it. As I've said before, by your standards any moderately successful pornographer is "great" photographer. Sonny, I've always been curious. Do any black folk live in your town? They don't appear in your photographs. If I understand you correctly, this means that you don't "like" them. What we *do* get a lot of are pre-pubescent cheerleaders, and a lot of middle-class, middle-aged white folk "swapping lies," as you once captioned a photograph. How apt. What, exactly, do you think you're documenting, and why? And judging from the stuff you routinely post here, it's laughable to learn that you consider yourself a critic of your own work. God alone knows what you throw away. Really, get a grip. Cheers! Chandos -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+chandos=cox.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+chandos=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of SonC@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:47 PM To: lug@leica-users.org Subject: [Leica] was: did I miss a fight? NOW snapshots and criticism In a message dated 6/29/2006 5:19:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ricc@mindspring.com writes: Let he who is without snapshots cast the first stone, or at least stop posting them. --------------------------------------- I totally disagree. Sorry. You know, I work in an archive with a giant collection of photography. We have some Ullmans and other good stuff, but no one comes to us for that. Movie makers, magazines, writers, TV producers, all come to us for the pictures in our snapshot collection. It is rich with moments from the daily lives of people from this area. This is not an art list. This is not Streetphoto. I see things and photograph them and show them. If you like my work, look at it, if you don't use the delete key. I enjoy criticism, but believe me, even Chandos is not a greater critic of my work than I am. I do not like criticism like, "too bad that when the explosion happened there were some power lines obscuring the lovely clouds." For God's sake, when you talk about a shot, give pointers that someone can do something about. For example, my monitor might be screwed up, and the color looks just fine to me, but to someone else it sucks. Tell me. I have several monitors available, and then I know that the one I'm editing on needs attention. I try to put interesting shots online. Not great art. I am not an artist. I don't have an artist's statement. I take pictures. I sell some. Some people think because I don't dig into the ugly side of my town that I am not documenting it. I prefer to show what I like, not what I hate. I did that too many years as a news photographer, and it only makes me sad if that's all I shoot. So, to finally answer what you said, I shoot hundreds of pictures you never see. Some, no one but me will ever see. An example: My dear sweet wife, already in the first stages of anesthesia before a major surgery this week. Without makeup, in hospital stuff, a lovely portrait of the woman I love in a moment that we are uncertain of our future. She did OK, but I'll treasure that shot because I'll always remember how I felt about her in those tense moments. Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane ?galit?, libert?, crawfish _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information