Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You're kind of noisy yourself today, aren't you? B. D. Colen wrote: >My guess was film, and high speed at that- and the reason I asked was that I >was struck by how "noisy" some of those images are. Which gets back to my >thought about our willingness to accept grain, but not digital noise. I'd be >inclined to reject some of your images that I like had I shot them >digitally, calling them too damn noisy. But as film images, I just thought - >high speed. Perhaps this bias - and it is a bias - comes from the fact that >at lower isos digital is so spookily clean. Therefore when there is noise, >we think there's something wrong. > >Anyway, nice work, noise or not.... > > >On 6/22/06 10:59 AM, "Arche, Harvey" <Harvey.Arche@jp2hs.org> wrote: > > > >>B.D. wrote: >>Hi, Arche - 49, 51, 53, 57, and 58 are your winners. So what were you >>shooting with? >> >> >>On 6/21/06 6:05 PM, "Arche, Harvey" <Harvey.Arche@jp2hs.org> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Of all the various paid sporting events I?ve ever been to, the drag races >>>have >>>absolutely the least separation between spectators and participants, at >>>this >>>track anyway. There is a small parking lot for fans right next to the >>>stands, >>>for convenience, but you can park wherever you want. At the drag strip >>>there >>>is no ?pit? area, just big parking lots on either side of the track. This >>>is >>>where the racers line up their trucks and trailers, and unload the cars. >>>Any >>>mechanical work takes place here, as well as warm-up driving. Everyone is >>>walking around visiting and checking out the competition. The only parking >>>rules are custom and courtesy. >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/parking_pits >>>At this track there is a broad lane from the parking lots, along back of >>>the >>>stands, leading to the bottom of the track. This is where the racers queue >>>up >>>waiting their turns to run. The fences are present only to define lanes, >>>and >>>there is no avoiding moving in and through the mass of cars and drivers. >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/lane >>>Even though the line moves fairly quickly (each race only lasts seconds), >>>there is still a lot of standing around and waiting, trash talking, >>>haranguing >>>the officials, and running to the concession stand for snacks (send the >>>spouse >>>or kid). Interestingly, to me anyway, there is a much higher proportion of >>>black participation in drag racing, by far, than any of the other motor >>>sports >>>I?ve witnessed. >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/car_driver1 >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/car_driver2 >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/car_driver3 >>>The concession stand sells sodas, junk food, and earplugs (but this >>>evening >>>the sign said: ?No Earplugs tonight - Don?t even ask?). The noise can be >>>shattering. Small boys stick their fingers in their ears >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/noise >>>and grown men shelter behind their spit cups. >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/burnout >>>This is the ?burnout? at the bottom end of the track, when drivers spin >>>their >>>wheels on water-slicked pavement in order to get the wheels hot so that >>>they >>>become soft and offer better traction. Immediately after this the cars >>>come up >>>to the starting line, and usually there is no more than 10-20 seconds >>>between >>>the burnout and the actual race. >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/downthetrack >>>All the watchable action is at the starting end of the track, and >>>spectators >>>are separated from the cars only by a chain-link and a low wall. This is >>>where >>>most of the crowd is all evening. This Toyota truck stomped that Camaro >>>turning in a time of 6.99 seconds for the quarter mile. >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/start1 >>>Then again, that Toyota truck is a Toyota truck like I?m Arnold >>>Schwarzenegger. Wait - I?ve got that backwards. >>>Time trials take up most of the daylight, and actual races begin in the >>>evening. One of my students, whose dad races a Chevelle here, tells me >>>they?ll >>>run races, sometimes, until 3 in the morning. As the wind dies, the pall >>>of >>>tire-smoke hangs at the starting line. >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/night1 >>>http://gallery.leica-users.org/album404/night2 >>>Still smelling of burnt rubber, >>>Arche >>> >>> >>Thanks, B.D. I was shooting my usual M2/35 'cron bugeye rig, but for film >>used, progressively as the day wore on, APX 100, Tri-x, and then P3200. >>Trouble was, I ran out of daylight film before I ran out of daylight. >>Lesson: >>don't shoot P3200 in the daytime without being willing to process it >>differently from the stuff shot at night - I got lazy. >>While you're OK with 49, I dislike it for technical reasons (see above). >>Which >>brings me to my real problem with editing this stuff. Sometimes to get one >>image or another I like out there, I feel the need to establish context, or >>often continuity, and end up pulling in weaker images to support the >>narrative. I'm waffling between ditching any narrative and axeing >>ruthlessly, >>or keeping the story to add dimension. Us Southerners love our stories, >>but us >>photographers want the 1000 words to stay in the picture. >>55 may not be a series-keeper, but could have outside life as a document >>of a >>time and place. 58 almost didn't get in, but 57 works both in and out of >>the >>series context, when taken as a portrait. Fortunately I happen to know who >>the >>guy is, and came get prints to his family. >> >>That last 'T-shot' was definitly not 'simply a photo of people on a train'. >>I'd tell you to GOYA & Shoot but you don't need to hear it. >>Arche >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >