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Subject: Consumerism [was RE: [Leica] Digital Leica M]
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Wed Jun 14 16:11:00 2006
References: <p0623090ec0b605a56016@10.0.1.3> <C0B5D1E6.12017%bdcolen@comcast.net>

What planet do YOU live on - I'll bet the APPLIANCES ran $20K, the
counter tops (with installation $10K unless they used a marble in blue
so it becomes $20K), and the cabinets, if they're good, another $20K.

Yes, we're about to remodel our kitchen -- any day now -- good thing
I'm still not eating!

Adam

On 6/14/06, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ahhhhh...$75K...:-)
>
>
> On 6/14/06 2:29 PM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Well, I didn't include the cost of the ten-foot bump out on the
> > house, or the new marble center island, etc, etc. etc...
> >
> >> Leica-like kitchen for only $15-20K? That sounds like resurfaced 
> >> cabinets, a
> >> couple appliances and some new linoleum. It's not at all unusual these 
> >> days
> >> to spend $50K on a kitchen - not that I ever have, mind you.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/14/06 2:16 PM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  Don -  This is not a land I inhabit routinely, but I'm sure it's
> >>>  still possible to buy consumer goods of exceptional quality if you
> >>>  are willing to pay the price.  The cost of high-end goods isn't
> >>>  exclusively in their gloss and prestige.  I have friends who recently
> >>>  remodelled their kitchen to the tune of about $15-20K and the gear
> >>>  they bought not only looks good but seems to be built like a tank.
> >>>
> >>>  You have to get used to the idea, though, of spending $3-4K or more
> >>>  for a stove, appreciate and enjoy the features and quality of the
> >>>  equipment, and be really thinking long term.
> >>>
> >>>  To get back to cameras, why buy a DSLR when, when you and get a
> >>>  high-quality advanced consumer camera for less, or why buy the
> >>>  advanced consumer camera when you can buy a good point and shoot for
> >>>  less?
> >>>
> >>>  The answer is the same for any tool.  The more expensive ones will do
> >>>  things the cheaper ones can't, have better build quality, be more
> >>>  reliable, and, maybe, just maybe, also be a joy to own.
> >>>
> >>>  Just where the value/price ratio is optimized is a very individual
> >>>  choice, he said, stepping down off his soap box.  :-)
> >>>
> >>>  B.T.W. my friends are enthusiastic cooks.  I'm sure their Leica-like
> >>>  kitchen will give them enormous pleasure for a very long time.
> >>>
> >>>>  Richard,
> >>>>  At least when you bought your machines you had the option of 
> >>>> purchasing  a
> >>>>  well designed and engineered machine.  As retailers look to limit 
> >>>> stock to
> >>>>  the 100/10000 top turning SKU's any item that doesn't turn inventory 
> >>>> will
> >>>>  not be reordered.  Price becomes an issue as fewer people can 
> >>>> descriminate
> >>>>  what is quality and what is not so let price rule.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Consumerism plays a part here as well.  Rather than have a few very 
> >>>> nice
> >>>>  things, most would rather have a whole bunch of shiny junk just ot 
> >>>> say
> >>>> that
> >>>>  they have one of everything.
> >>>>
> >>>>  B.D. briefly touched on this when commenting on the relative price 
> >>>> of a
> >>>>  proposed dM and a D30 or the Oly line.  Why would someone pay 5K for 
> >>>> a box
> >>>>  that does what a 1.4K box does?  It is for the same reason that I 
> >>>> won't
> >>>> buy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  (snip)
> >>
> >>
> >>
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