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Subject: [Leica] scanning old Kodachromes
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun May 28 07:51:00 2006
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thanks Don...that is very reassuring especially given the very low  
humidity here, where I live...Steve


On May 28, 2006, at 7:45 AM, Don Dory wrote:

> Steve,
> I found a German slide show on color loss and color restoration.
> Specifically for Kodachorme at Arizona temperature you would lose  
> about half
> the life of the slide assuming humidity at 80%.  Color loss was pretty
> linear with a small cyan crossover so reds would increase  
> somewhat.  In a
> practical sense you would lose saturation.  A key point though is  
> humidity
> is a necessary catalyst up to a point.
>
> In summary, if your slides were taken on old Koadachrome stock they  
> should
> look unchanged for about 35-40 years in un-air conditioned space  
> assuming
> old Arizona climate before everybody watered the lawn and put in  
> swimming
> pools.
>
> Don
> don.dory@gmail.com
>
>
> On 5/28/06, Steve Barbour <kididdoc@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Don...see my little question below please...
>>
>> and enjoy your Sunday...
>>
>>
>> On May 28, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Don Dory wrote:
>>
>> > Hoppy,
>> > If your slide was stored in the dark
>>
>>
>> how about in the dark... but occasionally exposed to  hi
>> temperatures....  as here in Arizona...?  thanks, Steve
>>
>>
>> > then I would suspect little or no
>> > change in the colors.  I could tell you a tale about some
>> > Ektachrome slides
>> > that are about thirty years old and probably processed in the new
>> > to that
>> > time washless E-6.  The only color really available is red/magenta.
>> > Possibly why I switched to Fujichrome so long ago.
>> >
>> > But color is such a personal decision.  We all see color
>> > differently.  I was
>> > reminded of this when I was wandering through a bunch of Cezanne
>> > paintings
>> > with their strange palatte for skin tones.  Did the color look to
>> > Cezanne
>> > like skin tone?  How much impressionism was there?
>> >
>> > Anyway, keep posting.
>> >
>> > Don
>> > don.dory@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/28/06, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Folks I've recently started a new album and have received some
>> >> helpful
>> >> hints
>> >> and encouragement.
>> >>
>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/analog-images
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> One or two people made comment on an old scan of an abandoned
>> >> farmhouse.
>> >>
>> >> One graciously shared with me what could be done with an 11X14  
>> view
>> >> camera.
>> >> (thanks a bunch Jim, more gear to lust after when I'm trying to
>> >> fund more
>> >> Leica glass right now!)
>> >>
>> >> For my interest and those helpful correspondents, I have located a
>> >> similar
>> >> original from the same film.
>> >>
>> >> The original was in fact Kodachrome64 (Curse you K, why can't I
>> >> buy it
>> >> anymore?)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> So, K64 about 20+yrs old, scanned with Nikon Coolscan V scanner.
>> >>
>> >> Was late afternoon certainly, and I think UV filter but not
>> >> Polarizer.
>> >>
>> >> Both versions treated as identically as possible in PS; minimal
>> >> crop for
>> >> format to A4 print, dust and scratch manually spot healed,
>> >>
>> >> minimal sharpen, But one using ROC (restoration of colour) and one
>> >> without.
>> >>
>> >> I personally prefer the ROC version, but then for me K64 was
>> >> always the
>> >> colour as you'd like it to be rather than perhaps as it was.
>> >>
>> >> Really can't quite decide how much the original has faded. The
>> >> curves &
>> >> saturation in each version are as scanned, minor B&W points
>> >> compression.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Anyway I was surprised to see that the ICE3 Nikon Scan software
>> >> would work
>> >> at all on Kodachrome.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps only the dust reduction doesn't work on K & B&W emulsions.
>> >>
>> >> If anyone else has experience in using this scanner, especially
>> >> with other
>> >> software, I'd love to hear from you. I have the supplied Nikon
>> >> Scan 4.02and
>> >> VueScan Pro.8.3.4.2
>> >>
>> >> Specifically your workflow, especially from those folks who  
>> shoot a
>> >> hundred
>> >> times more film than this amateur every year.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Hoppy,
>> >>
>> >> FNG
>> >>
>> >>
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