Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/03/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I was assuming intentional, but the result would be the same. But frankly, I think at this point the reaction might be to lynch King George, rather than keep him in office. After all, how many billions spent, how many lives wasted, how many rights abridged, all in the name of security? On 3/31/06 3:13 PM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote: > When I saw B.D.'s post concerning Bhopal it seemed he was supposing an > accident rather than a terrorist event.The response, naturally, would be > the same as if it were intentional. Hell, it would probably give > Congress incentive to dump the constitution and keep Georgie in office > > Ahhhh...Big Brother > > Walt > > Barney Quinn wrote: > >> BD, >> >> I don't wish death, disaster, or tragedy on anyone. Not even people whom I >> don't >> like or disagree with. I particularly don't want to see any more disasters >> inflicted upon the USA. We've had more than enough trouble of late. But, >> that >> said, >> given the response to Katrina and given what has (or hasn't) happened >> about >> New >> Orleans I hate to think what would happen if a Bhopal-like event happened >> here, God >> Forbid it ever would. >> >> I was asking myself this morning what would happen if, again God Forbid, >> Iraq >> was >> hit by a truly huge and destructive earthquake. I have no clue except to >> say >> that I >> doubt that it would be pretty. >> >> Barney >> >> >> >> "B. D. Colen" wrote: >> >> >> >>> Imagine a Bhopal-like event in, say, Chicago... >>> >>> On 3/31/06 1:37 PM, "Barney Quinn" <bquinn@sgi.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> BD, >>>> >>>> You're right, but it's a whole lot easier and cheaper to hassle innocent >>>> people >>>> taking a few happy snaps then it is to protect chemical plants, >>>> something >>>> which >>>> takes a lot of work, expense, concentration, and - gasp - might put you >>>> in >>>> the >>>> position of having to tell a community or a business they can't do just >>>> exactly >>>> what they want to do. >>>> >>>> Barney >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "B. D. Colen" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Well, actually, if I seriously needed photos of a particular place, >>>>> and I >>>>> was aware of the way people are being hassled, I might well use a 4x5 >>>>> on a >>>>> tripod with a darkcloth, wearing a Tilly hat, Mephisto shoes, and a >>>>> Domke >>>>> photo vest, with a Parker 51 in one pocket , a fifth of single malt in >>>>> another other, with a Leica IIIf hanging around my neck - because who >>>>> would >>>>> think that a 'bad guy' would be so obvious? Of course I might well >>>>> have a >>>>> digital camera of some sort inside the 4x5...:-) >>>>> >>>>> Seriously, the whole thing is idiotic - if someone wants these sorts of >>>>> images, they're going to get them. Period. I'd like to see a fraction >>>>> of >>>>> the >>>>> time and attention being wasted on making sure that none of us take >>>>> photos >>>>> of some run down courthouse in East Buttbleep, or the Port Authority >>>>> Bus >>>>> Terminal applied to securing chemical plants and ports. Until that's >>>>> done, >>>>> we're screwed - pure and simple. >>>>> >>>>> Back to working on my new website. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/31/06 11:01 AM, "bruce" <bruce@ralgo.nl> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> If that bothers you, Frank, imagine what they get-up-to from outer/ >>>>>> inner space (satellites) ................ Google, but far more >>>>>> efficient + telephone listening etc. etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> B. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31-mrt-2006, at 17:54, Frank Filippone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I get hassled all the time with a 4x5 view camera. Why would any >>>>>>> self >>>>>>> respecting honest to goodness no-good-nik ever use a 4x5, on a >>>>>>> tripod, with >>>>>>> a dark cloth, taking 10 minutes to shoot 1 piece of film of a >>>>>>> sensitive >>>>>>> subject? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I were a no-good-nik, I would use a digital camera from a moving >>>>>>> car to >>>>>>> minimize my exposure. What is wrong with the official idiots >>>>>>> acting as our >>>>>>> protectors? How many times I have been chased off shooting a >>>>>>> public place >>>>>>> with my 4x5, to watch some tourist go up and happy snap the same >>>>>>> image? Why >>>>>>> is one more subversive looking than the other? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If taking pictures is not approved of, what do our elected >>>>>>> officials think >>>>>>> of the thousands to millions of pictures already taken of the >>>>>>> building? >>>>>>> Amateur pictures, professional pictures, printed pictures, >>>>>>> newspaper images, >>>>>>> even building plans.... they are all public already... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe it speaks to the relative brightness of our officials versus >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> brightness of the bad guys. I have yet to hear of a terrorist cell >>>>>>> getting >>>>>>> caught because they took a picture of anything....... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Frank Filippone >>>>>>> red735i@earthlink.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Barney Quinn, Jr. >>>> (301) 688-1982 (O) >>>> (240) 535-3036 (C) >>>> (877) 220-0981 (P) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Barney Quinn, Jr. >> (301) 688-1982 (O) >> (240) 535-3036 (C) >> (877) 220-0981 (P) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information