Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/03/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hey! I didn't subscribe to this list to hear endless rants about the current world econmic situation and the quality and value of Chinese goods versus American! Llistmaster, could you start a CGL and give these people some place to take this chatter so that we can get back to discussing Leicas? Thanks Outraged in Boston ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com ...... Original Message ....... On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:07:33 -0500 Scott McLoughlin <scott@adrenaline.com> wrote: "Oh what a happy tale. Exporting US and EU jobs will remarkably transform "China into a bastion of civil rights and democracy. Such optimism should "be saved for fairy tales; it is unwarranted in rational debate. And what "will such job exporting turn the US and EU into politically? Optimistic "about "that? " "Scott " "Douglas Sharp wrote: " "> Don, "> let's face it, the number of people forced to remain at a lower level "> of education was, not so long ago, pretty unimportant. There was "> always the job at the local mill, factory or in agriculture. What we "> are facing today is the backlash of the classic denial of an "> appropriate education to certain classes, races, ethnic groups and "> women for what ever reason a government or a religion felt fit. The "> menial worker is now hardly in demand, or this work is carried out by "> immigrants, women, imported cheap or illegal labour or "exported" "> manufacturing facilities in low wage countries. "> To take this further, the Chinese have already started making inroads "> into classical European industrial sectors, and have already bought "> several companies in what was previously the GDR. This development "> will continue in the same way as Mittal's (Indian steel magnate) "> successful campaign to control and own the iron and steel industry. "> Technology transfer to China is now a big thing, and also a "> prerequiste clause in just about any export or services contract made "> with Chinese concerns (this happened to Transrapid Mag-Lev, Siemens, "> VW and others). "> And what was the real revolution in China after Mao? "> You got it - educating the masses - this went so far that there is now "> a campaign in China to get people back into agriculture before the "> food supply situation collapses - add to this the Chinese love of "> taking financial risks (betting and stockbroking are the biggest games "> in HK) and probably, within the next 10 years, China will be the "> leading world economy and the owner of many traditional western "> companies. "> The plan of gradually loosening the totalitarian hold on development "> will eventually be followed, when the government sees fit, with the "> reinstatement of human rights for all, which if granted before the "> economic consolidation of this immense country could easily lead to "> civil war. IMO, it's hard but it's the only way they can see, and it "> fits in with thousands of years of years of feudal culture and "> mentality going back to the Mandarins and further. "> If your kids are still young, let them learn Chinese - they'll soon "> need it.. "> " "-- "Pics @ http://www.adrenaline.com/snaps "Leica M6TTL, Bessa R, Nikon FM3a, Nikon D70, Rollei AFM35 "(Jihad Sigint NSA FBI Patriot Act) " " " "_______________________________________________ "Leica Users Group. "See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information