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Subject: [Leica] OT: world press winners 2006 (long rant)
From: ricc at mindspring.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Sun Feb 12 11:07:06 2006
References: <C014C33B.4384%telyt@earthlink.net>

Well said.

Not a rant.

Ric


On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Douglas Herr wrote:

> on 2/12/06 6:40 AM, Douglas Herr at telyt@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> on 2/11/06 10:08 PM, Ted Grant at tedgrant@shaw.ca wrote:
>>
>>>> Ted, my experience with sports mirrors yours with birds ;-) but for
>>>> wildlife
>>>> at least digital capture with fast frame rates has turned  
>>>> technique upside
>>>> down from where it was just a few years ago.  Standard practice  
>>>> is indeed
>>>> to
>>>> shoot a burst and pick a good one from the sequence later.<<<
>>>
>>> Surely Doug these guys shooting at 8 frames a second aren't  
>>> getting the
>>> quality you do? While shooting one frame at a time? The first frame.
>>
>> bingo!
>>
>
> Let me expand on this quickie running-out-the-door response.
>
> [RANT MODE ON]
>
> IMHO there are many parallels between sports photography and wildlife
> photography, and that as the equipment technology has evolved it  
> has become
> far easier for the average photographer, or I should say a team of  
> average
> photographers, to capture the "action" that is prized by editors;  
> it used to
> be that skill and timing were crucial but when you see at major  
> sporting
> events a 'shooting gallery' of several dozen big white lenses  
> operated by
> remote-controlled high frame rate camera bodies tethered to central  
> editing
> rooms one has to wonder how much skill is involved aside from  
> knowing where
> to point the camera.
>
> Regarding the photo that started this discussion (diver stiking her  
> head on
> the diving platform), we don't know whether there was a 'shooting  
> gallery'
> or if this was the work of an individual.  If there was a shooting  
> gallery
> as described above, the odds are that one photo among the dozens  
> made of
> this particular dive would have captured the moment of impact.  If  
> you were
> to ask me what the chances are of any one photographer (or, any  
> particular
> camera) capturing that moment I'd tell you the odds were very low.   
> However,
> in the aggregate the odds that the moment of impact would show up  
> in the
> editing room were pretty good.  It's almost like supplying an infinite
> number of monkeys with an equally infinite number of word  
> processors except
> you've improved the odds by adding spell-check software to the word
> processor.
>
> Shooting galleries are found in wildlife photography too.  There are
> numerous 'hot spots' and events that draw photographers shoulder to  
> shoulder
> with their big white lenses: La Jolla Cove about this time of year, a
> roadside badger's den I saw in Yelowstone, Bosque del Apache National
> Wildlife Refuge in New Mexico late in the year, Palo Alto Baylands or
> Arrowhead Marsh during the winter new moon high tide.  Technically the
> photos that result are good, but when you see the 'take' from the  
> gallery
> there's a 'same-ness' to them.  No one photo, or no single  
> photographer's
> photos, stand out from the rest.
>
> Years ago wildlife photographers' holy grail was photographing  
> birds in
> flight.  AF, Better Beamers, Matrix-metered fill flash, fast frame  
> rates and
> vibration-reduction technologies have changed all that.  Now, nature
> photography websites are abolutely full of these pictures, and  
> after a while
> they all look the same aside from the color or shape of the bird: a  
> large
> bird (easy to track, easy for the AF system to lock onto) centered  
> on the AF
> sensors, overhead with a plain blue sky (don't want to confuse the  
> AF system
> with a real background), evenly lit from beneath by the flash  
> system (no
> icky shadows) with a twinkle in the eye supplied by the flash.  The  
> first
> one was fantastic, the second and third and fourth were kewl but  
> when you've
> been inundeated by hundreds they're all BORING.  It's mass-production
> photography just as interesting and challenging as the output from the
> shooting galleries at sporting events.  The challenge has become  
> acquiring
> and programming the equipment.
>
> Now before anyone gets his or her shorts in a knot about the 'big  
> white
> lens' remarks I'm not implying that automaton photography is all  
> they're
> good for.  There are plenty of reasons to choose any particular  
> piece of
> hardware but it seems like if you're going to do the shooting  
> gallery thing,
> the auto-everything camera is the one you use to get your pictures  
> into the
> editing room, and the more picures you supply, the better the odds  
> are that
> some of your photos will make it out of the editing computers.
>
> [RANT MODE OFF]
>
> So Ted what I've tried to say in a roundabout way is that in the  
> past a
> photo like the diver striking her head probably would have been the  
> result
> of a skilled and knowledgable photographer relying on instinct and  
> timing
> instead of fast frame rates, the game for the majority of sports  
> photography
> has changed: the odds of any one phographer capturing the moment of  
> impact
> were slim, but because of the huge number of photos being made of  
> the event
> the odds of someone getting the picture are pretty good.
>
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>
>
>
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