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Subject: [Leica] DMR mk II ?
From: telyt at earthlink.net (Douglas Herr)
Date: Sat Feb 4 15:49:19 2006

Ted, did you read the photo.net thread?  Lots of example photos from working
photographers on the job.

Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com


on 2/4/06 3:19 PM, Ted Grant at tedgrant@shaw.ca wrote:

> B. D. pointed out:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR mk II ?
>>>>> Let's see - 20D - $1300 for entire camera. DMR, $5-6K for the back
>>>>> alone - $8-9K for the camera. It bloody well better make the 20D look
>>>>> like a Kodak Brownie. Or am I missing something here? ;-)<<<<
> 
> Hi B.D.,
> To some degree this whole DMR thing is another peeing in the wind thing the
> LUG get's on when a new piece of gear becomes available as we've seen 
> during
> the past half dozen years or so.
> 
> Be it lenses, new bodies, digital or otherwise, you name it and everyone 
> has
> an opinion. The R8 for example became a collection of ridiculous aspersions
> by members who'd only seen pictures of it or had one in hand for less than 
> 5
> minutes.
> 
> The DMR falls into exactly the same category. We, us, most everyone has 
> some
> kind of comment good, bad or ugly about it. But what we haven't seen yet is
> anything from a real time working on the job assignment (unless I missed 
> it)
> and I don't mean grasslands, nice looking trees, happy snaps of the local
> school or church. We haven't seen results of it during a news documentary 
> or
> event during the crash & burns situations of life.
> 
> What we have seen and hear comments about are "the fineness of detail,
> colour renditions and the "things of greater meaning to rock & fern folks
> with lots of time for just the right conditions."
> 
> I don't doubt it isn't good, but many of the things being said fall into 
> the
> usual digital jargon of techie stuff of little meaning to working
> photojournalists who require higher sensitivity settings. We've been there
> sort of, but it still hasn't answered my point, although George L. was 
> close
> on dial twiddling.;-)
> 
> It's beginning to look like a fruitless collection of mine is bigger, 
> better
> than yours.
> 
> And yes for the kind of money, I know the value to work ratio is 
> meaningless
> to a person who can pop for a DMR, R8 or 9 without a dollar return thought.
> But until I see 20D prints off my 2200 better than we produce now, I mean
> lots and lots better big time then I'm reserving judgement.
> 
> Although I did have a 5D in hand, shot some frames, nothing more than
> people in the shop and on the street I'm favourably impressed and for what 
> a
> DMR costs I could have 2 5D bodies and the use of all my Leica glass
> shooting full 35mm frame. ;-) And keep the 20D as a back-up. ;-)
> 
> Then I'd be back to my "using three bodies" at the same time to shoot my
> assignments and other work.;-)
> 
> Makes a fella think a bit more about digi life at an affordable price may
> not be so bad after all. ;-)
> 
> ted. 
> 
> 
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