Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/29

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Subject: [Leica] Further adventures of a completely screwed up guy: long and occasionally on topic
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Sun Jan 29 05:59:27 2006
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Frank,
Would you say the overweight issue is due to slack engineering: by that I
mean not finding new materials and design to reduce mass while still
including the power accessories that someone with the money to buy one
expects.  Or, because the market worships top speed and acceleration the
increased engine size and required necessary to control the increased power
necessarily make large heavy cars.

I get the feeling that not enough purchasers would be willing to purchase a
Chapman theory vehicle to justify the tooling.  Once you add all the
luxuries you need more power which makes tires, wheels, suspension
larger/heavier ad nauseum.

Don
don.dory@gmail.com


On 1/29/06, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Well said. Nobody makes Sports Cars any more, they are all overweight
> 2 seat limos. The nearest after Lotus and Noble are Porsche, who
> still make lightish cars but the rest are overweight, even all the
> Ferraris bar one. The fashion is power, but whilst extra power will
> get back the acceleration lost to the weight, and give a pointless
> increase in never-used top speed, the nimbleness, handling and good
> brakes are forever lost :-(
> Even the Elise is suffering, the Toyota engined one has been "pimped"
> as you put it and is about 15% heavier than the K-series car, sad,
> acceleration and top speed notwithstanding.
> Frank
>
>
> On 29 Jan, 2006, at 04:37, John Collier wrote:
>
> > gave the big thumbs up to the Lotus Elise. Why would anyone buy
> > anything else if you are in the market for a sports car? Does
> > anyone else actually even make a sports car anymore?
>
>
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