Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/29

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Subject: [Leica] Further adventures of a completely screwed up guy: long and occasionally on topic
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Sun Jan 29 05:01:25 2006
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Frank Dernie wrote:

> Well said. Nobody makes Sports Cars any more, they are all overweight  2 
> seat limos. The nearest after Lotus and Noble are Porsche, who  still 
> make lightish cars but the rest are overweight, even all the  Ferraris 
> bar one. The fashion is power, but whilst extra power will  get back the 
> acceleration lost to the weight, and give a pointless  increase in 
> never-used top speed, the nimbleness, handling and good  brakes are 
> forever lost :-(
> Even the Elise is suffering, the Toyota engined one has been "pimped"  
> as you put it and is about 15% heavier than the K-series car, sad,  
> acceleration and top speed notwithstanding.
> Frank
> 
> 
> On 29 Jan, 2006, at 04:37, John Collier wrote:
> 
>> gave the big thumbs up to the Lotus Elise. Why would anyone buy  
>> anything else if you are in the market for a sports car? Does  anyone 
>> else actually even make a sports car anymore?
> 
> 
> 
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Power-to-weight ratio, ability to put it down through the gears and minimise 
the 
losses to friction of one sort or another and - preferably - make it look 
nice?

Do you think that Chapman had it right?

Peter Dzwig

Is a shame about the Elise. Like the look of th Exige but somehow it doesn't 
quite convince me.


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