[Leica] still more on Leica "rumor" and NYT

[mcyclwritr at comcast.net (mcyclwritr@comcast.net)]

I knew this discussion would bring B.D. out swinging. 

While I won't divulge the names of otherwise innocent (and generous) 
publications or editors and clients, I will say that I've been writing on 
editorial and advertising deadline since 1969. But, with respect to 
responsible reporting, time in the field means little, as you know. 
Responsible reporting is responsible reporting whether you've been out of 
J-school for nearly 40 years or nearly 40 days. 

-Chris Lawson        

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From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net>
> And you were a reporter where? And are an expert in reporting and
> journalistic standards based on what? And have written precisely how many
> stories on deadline? Just wondering.
> 
> 
> On 1/4/06 1:54 PM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > This exactly the sort of NYT apologist retort I anticipated. That's why 
> > my
> > original post included a whiff of Basic Reporting 101, which, 
> > predictably, is
> > missing from your reply.
> > 
> > How do you know what the "mining company told family members and 
> > others?" Was
> > it broadcast on TV? Did you see actual, talking-head footage? Did that 
> > talking
> > head say to the effect of "It has been confirmed that rescuers have 
> > reached 12
> > surviving miners?" If so, I defer to you. I didn't see it. Further, who 
> > is a
> > "mining company?" How can a company speak? It speaks through a 
> > spokesman. Who
> > is that person? What, exactly, did he say? Report it, wrapped it in 
> > quotation
> > marks.  
> > 
> > And that's just part of why this particular misreporting debacle is so
> > embarrassing. Nobody from the wire service or any other reporting agency 
> > took
> > the time CONFIRM a damn thing. Not one damn thing. See the difference?
> > Spreading rumors and miscommunication versus factual, substantiated 
> > reporting.
> > 
> > Don't settle for sloppy reporting. Demand facts. Get information from 
> > numerous
> > sources, whether you're the reporter or the reader.
> > 
> > -Chris Lawson
> > 
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Matt Powell <wooderson@gmail.com>
> >> On 1/4/06, mcyclwritr@comcast.net <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> Not to klck the Gray Lady while she's down, but I heard that today's 
> >>> NYT
> >>> front 
> >> page >trumpeted 12 survivors from the West Virginia mine tragedy. Can 
> >> you say
> >> "scoop >hungry?" "Unsubstantiated?" "Reckless?"
> >> 
> >> That's what the mining company told family members and others
> >> gathered. Hardly the reporter's fault that he passed along what was
> >> being stated on the scene.
> >> 
> >> --
> >> MP
> >> wooderson@gmail.com
> > 
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