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Subject: [Leica] A Noctilux and Velvia ...
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Tue Nov 15 11:46:36 2005

And so, once again we come back to the First Commandment -
"It's a tool, stupid!" ;-)


On 11/15/05 2:28 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote:

> B. D. Colen said :
> Subject: Re: [Leica] A Noctilux and Velvia ...
> 
> 
>> If you're shooting in a dark setting in which there are highlights - say
> in
>> a room with candle light, there's usually plenty of light on the subject -
>> maybe a face - to shoot at 800, maybe 1600 - at a 1.4 at 1/15th, maybe
>> 1.4.
>> Obviously it's advantageous to shoot at f 1 because you can up the shutter
>> speed.<<<
> 
> Hi B. D.,
> The higher shutter speed in most cases is the reason I use it simply 
> because
> I can get away with hand holding at 1/4 or 1/8th, but always living
> dangerously. But if at f 1.0 I can get 1/15th the chances are I'll have an
> exposure that captures the scene without any shaking.
> 
>> However, when there is essentially no light on the scene, whatever you
>> shoot
>> with you generally get a flat, dirty image. So f1 or no f1 - what's the
>> point unless you absolutely must get that shot of Ahmed Chalabi passing
>> documents to Dick Chaney?<<<<<<<<<
> 
> And that's exactly why mine has been used on occasion. Basically being able
> to get an image of something happening that shouldn't be happening.
> 
>> If it's dim and dark to your eyes, the final result is going to be dim and
>> dark - Noctilux or no Noctilux.<<<
> 
> Absolutely! Even where I could get an exposure I thought was cool, when we
> printed it, it became crap and never saw the light of day.
> 
> One must use some intelligence with the lens under extreme light conditions
> and the reason for trying to shoot. As I said above, sometimes it's to get
> an image no matter how grungy it looks. The other is getting a picture 
> where
> it actually does work and creates quite an effective image.
> 
> Another reason for my using it is, when I shoot indoors even with a fair
> amount of light I can work with slower speed film, therefore higher shutter
> speeds and possibly better looking prints. In colour or B&W.
> 
>> Again, it seems to me the real advantage of the Noctilux is its allowing
>> you to shoot
>> at one shutter speed faster than you might otherwise shoot - which can be
>> the difference between getting and not getting a useable image.<
> 
> No question!
> 
> ted
> 
> 
> 
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