Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/11/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Government by divine right. Coming soon-Jeb Bush for prez. Ric On Nov 3, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Chris Saganich wrote: > Political = exploitation. Exploitation of fear is political in so > far that politicians do it, but it more appropriately speaks to the > defining of those that are "good" and those which are "Bad" in > society so that the leaders can create the illusion of consensus in > their favor. What most educated people fail to see is that is > that when "good" and "Bad" are defined by those in power your > ability to stay on the "good" side is chained to your ability to > rationalize the actions of those in power. If you are unable to do > so you become an enemy of the State and killed by the secret police > in the worst case or in our case an enemy of Democracy. > Disagreement is a sign of diversity which is used by a community to > improve knowledge. If disagreement becomes treason your enemy > becomes clear...anyone. > > The U.S. is heading down a dangerous road. Last time WWII > intervened and we emerged as a social democratic nation that ruled > the world. That time has passed. The current administration seems > to like the following: > > A cult of tradition based on the literal interpretation of the Bible. > > Rejection of modernism, replaced with the ideology of the personal > attainment of wealth forgetting about everyone else. Why should > you care if your neighbors kids can't afford college, it isn't your > problem. > > Thinking as a form of emasculation unless your attacking modern > culture or the liberal intelligentsia for betraying "traditional > values." > > Reacting to disagreement as "undemocratic" or "unAmerican" > > The concept of "final solutions" and "permanent warfare". "If only > we can rid the world of these evil doers there would be paradise." > This is by far the most disgusting and putrid trend. > > Aristocratic and militaristic elitism which implies contempt for > the weak and poor. NO anyone? > > Machismo attitudes which include intolerance and condemnation of > nonstandard sexual habits from chastity to homosexuality... and > gunplay as an ersatz phallic exercise. or chain saw perhaps. > > Redefining or limiting language (to the public) in order to limit > the ability to critically reason and thus making rationalization > of "action without reflection" easy for the intellectuals. > > I find these trends rather disturbing and such a collection hasn't > been seen in one place for quite awhile. The problem is we are > waiting for someone in the administration to announce their going > to re-open Auschwitz, in the mean time people go to jail for using > a camera in public. > > "at least the system worked"? who is kidding who. > > > > > > At 01:53 PM 11/3/2005, you wrote: >> It's a political exploitation of people's fears, already well-stoked, >> about child sex abuse and pedaphilia in general. Of course there >> seems >> to be 100% overlap between those who demand such laws and those who >> put their children into 5 year old beauty pagents and who don't see >> that the overlap between products is part of the problem. Shuddering. >> >> I take your point but think it's a vast over-statement although your >> argument, at its core, is probably sound. >> >> Adam >> >> On 11/3/05, Chris Saganich <chs2018@med.cornell.edu> wrote: >> > The fact such a law can be passed is frightening. I suspect >> thinking is a >> > form of emasculation in Texas while playing with guns and the >> Law has >> > become an ersatz phallic exercise in response to the >> irrationality of a >> > permanent war and the need to create an "adequate" internal >> enemy. Not to >> > worry we will neatly define that enemy and put'em all in jail. >> It is >> > unfortunate that Public Photography seems to fit the >> definition. I hope it >> > doesn't stick. >> > >> > CS >> > >> > >> > At 11:04 AM 11/3/2005, you wrote: >> > >You got it... >> > > >> > >Although everyone in NL has legal insurance, so the US is not >> the only >> > >litigious country. It is particularly useful if you want to >> take legal >> > >action against your employer, a frequent occurrence here. >> > > >> > >Nathan >> > > >> > >Nathan Wajsman >> > >Almere, Netherlands >> > >http://www.nathanfoto.com >> > >http://www.fotosevilla.com >> > >Print sales: http://www.photodeluge.com >> > >Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp? >> qt=wajsman >> > > >> > >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >> > >Van: SonC@aol.com >> > >Datum: donderdag, november 3, 2005 2:04 pm >> > >Onderwerp: Re: [Leica] OT: photographer jailed in Texas without >> cause >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > In a message dated 11/3/2005 6:59:48 A.M. Central Standard >> Time, >> > > > aaron.sandler@duke.edu writes: >> > > > >> > > > Typical Europeans...always suing at the drop of a >> hat. ;) ;) ;) >> > > > ;) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Yeah, he learned it in Florida! ;-) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Unfortunate and unpleasant as the incident must have been >> for the >> > > > >photographer, at least the system did work: the prosecutor >> had more >> > > > >sense than the cops and threw out the case. >> > > > > >> > > > >I will not be surprised if some money changes hands >> between the >> > > > state>and the photographer as a result of this--after all, >> he does >> > > > have a >> > > > >lawyer ;-) I certainly would sue if I were him. >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Regards, >> > > > Sonny >> > > > http://www.sonc.com >> > > > Natchitoches, Louisiana >> > > > Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane >> > > > ?galit?, libert?, crawfish >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Leica Users Group. >> > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Leica Users Group. >> > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> > >> > Chris Saganich, Sr. Physicist >> > Weill Medical College of Cornell University >> > New York Presbyterian Hospital >> > >> > Ph. 212.746.6964 >> > Fax. 212.746.4800 >> > A0049 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > Chris Saganich, Sr. Physicist > Weill Medical College of Cornell University > New York Presbyterian Hospital > > Ph. 212.746.6964 > Fax. 212.746.4800 > A0049 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information