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Subject: [Leica] Foto with my IIIf and Voigtlander 35mm
From: Jim at hemenway.com (Jim Hemenway)
Date: Tue Sep 27 14:13:09 2005
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I wonder if it isn't that the film has deteriorated too much?

Jim


David Cochran wrote:
> Hi Peter and thank you for your advice.
> 
> The problem is intermitent but it affects about half of the roll. It is 
> more evident on bright pictures ( I will post more tonight).
> I have used 2 labs, a pro lab and a semi-pro lab.
> 
> Variables;
> 
> * Film is old Kodak Portra and not necesarily recently fridged.
> 
> * I used the following shutter speeds, 200, 500 and 1000.
> 
> * Two lenses used a 5cm and a new Voigtlander 35mm.
> 
> 
> The streaks show on the negative. The thing that makes me suspect the 
> shutter or curtain is that the streaks are not present between frames, 
> just on the images themselves.
> On the last roll there were frames that had half of the frame black and 
> the other half streaked or normal (landscape orientation).
> 
> I tried to check a patern on the roll but there is none. Sometimes it 
> hapens to one frame and sometimes to a set of 5 to 6 frames before being 
> normal.
> 
> I will try the air trick tonight.
> 
> The photo was taken in Old San Juan in Puerto Rico. It is El Morro fort 
> built by the spaniards. It is a trail that goes around the edge of the 
> fort, actualy, the whole city is a fortified wall.
> 
> 
> peace
> 
> 
> D.
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2005, at 11:37AM, Peter Dzwig 
> <pdzwig@summaventures.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>David Cochran wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all.
>>>
>>>I got today my prints from last saturday's outing with my new Skopar 
>>>Classic 35mm.
>>>
>>>I did not have a 35mm viewfinder so i just lucky guessed it through the 
>>>camera's 50mm finder.
>>>
>>>The film is showing streaks on bright areas, although they are 
>>>intermitent. My guess is that it is the curtain..I don't know. After all 
>>>I will have to send the camera for check-up.
>>>
>>>Here it is....
>>>
>>>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3760181
>>>
>>>
>>>peace
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>David,
>>
>>those sort of streaks look like the printer. I presume that you had them 
>>printed 
>>off while they were being developed.
>>
>>Look at the negs with a loupe and see if you can see the streaks on the 
>>negs of 
>>the prints. If it is actually the shutter mechanism, or something in the 
>>guide 
>>they should be present on most - if not all - the negs of the film.
>>
>>Don't forget that if it is a camera fault in the shutter or similar, that 
>>is 
>>something that you don't touch or adjust so such a fault must be clearly 
>>present 
>>on most of pictures.
>>
>>If it is the camera it looks to me like something would have to be causing 
>>the 
>>emulsion to streak, which would mean that you might be looking at 
>>something 
>>pressing on the emulsion. Try taking the lens off (with camera empty) and 
>>doing 
>>a time exposure to see if there is anything obvious intruding into the 
>>film 
>>space from the shutter or the space behind.
>>
>>The other thing that you might try is a quick blast with an air gun (from 
>>a 
>>distance of over a foot or so, never directly into the mechanism), from 
>>beneath 
>>with the baseplate removed.
>>
>>Lastly try a GENTLE but firm shake with the baseplate off to see if you 
>>can 
>>dislodge anything.
>>
>>Now try a roll of Kodak Gold or some standard colour film and get it C41 
>>processed somewhere you habve never been before.
>>
>>If none of this sorts your problem then wrap your IIIf lovingly in bubble 
>>wrap 
>>and send it to SHerry or someone who the LUG recommends for IIIFs in your 
>>area - 
>>and good luck.
>>
>>
>>Peter Dzwig
>>
>>BTW - where did you take the photos I like it anyway
>>
>>
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