Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/09/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ah, yes, but it does keep the riff-raff all together in one place, out of sight and out of mind - which is the idea - until the Apocalypse. ;-) On 9/2/05 6:17 PM, "Scott McLoughlin" <scott@adrenaline.com> wrote: > Housing projects were/are a bad idea. Concentrating so much poverty, > misery and vast disfunction all together in isolated areas is a recipe for, > well, for just about what we've gotten ourselves into at the current time. > > Scott > > Chris Williams wrote: > >> Well the gangs in New Orleans only know mass murder. Get rid of them and >> the >> situation is at least a little easier. >> >> If anyone has ever been in the projects of New Orleans, you'd see what I'm >> saying. >> >> It was so bad 11 yrs when we first moved here that the military was >> threatening to move in to stop violence. Chief Pennigton restored allot of >> order by kicking out the corrupt police. He moved on 2yrs ago to Atlanta. >> Then murders started going back up. Sometimes 3 or 4 a night within >> blocks of >> each other. The city thought moving some projects would help. Some were >> moved >> to NO East and Slidell. Guess what, Slidell crime when skyrocket. >> >> I can tell you in my area that when they moved the projects out, our crime >> went way down, more shops opened and walking around at night became >> something >> we could do. I used to have to watch out for our house and car after Mardi >> Gras parades because gangs would knock out windows. Police would have to >> escort them back to the projects. >> >> If they don't care for human life, why should we care about them? >> >> By the way, Bush had to spend 30 minutes in AL posing for photo ops??? >> Gimme >> a fecking break. and they say they are in a hurry. >> >> 7 Minutes during 9/11, 30 minutes for 2 million displaced. >> >> Chris >> >> >> Chris Saganich <chs2018@med.cornell.edu> wrote: >> Oh yea that is a solution which has never been tried. How simple. I'm >> always amazed at how little we Americans understand about our own >> society. Such blindness will never make us strong, or help us solve >> problems in any other way but mass murder. Go for it Chris. Get out there >> and make a difference. >> >> Chris >> >> At 08:40 AM 9/2/2005, you wrote: >> >> >>> The Ward Gangs in N.O. are heavily armed, always have been. We're talking >>> AK-47s, Uzis, etc. They do not care for human lives. Even before this >>> photographers would be risking their lives going into project areas. I've >>> seen coroner photos for years in New Orleans. >>> >>> It's not worth it to risk your life down there. Though I feel sorry for >>> the vast majority of poor still stuck in New Orleans, these project >>> people >>> are not worth it. Just like in Iraq, the only way to get rid of >>> insurgency >>> is to kill them, or get out and save yourself. >>> >>> Even the NOPD friends I know would kill them given the chance. And these >>> are black friends saying this. >>> >>> Chris >>> New Orleans >>> >>> >>> >>> Scott McLoughlin wrote: >>> I wonder if the Toronto and NYT jounalists were shooting discrete MP's >>> and Noctilux (on topic - see) if they could have avoided police >>> violence. For >>> that matter, I wonder why with all the looting and gun violence going on >>> why >>> police would have wasted their time with lone journalists wielding just >>> a simple >>> camera of any stripe? >>> >>> Maybe FEMA should issue a warning to photo journalists and other press >>> personel to avoid dangerous, armed roaming police personel at all costs. >>> Sheesh, what a miserable country we live in - or so I'm sometimes led to >>> think. My Ukrainian g'friend pretty much hates it here, and I defend this >>> country to teeth. I'm gonna have a field day tomorrow when I see her. >>> Can't help it, I'm crying here. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> Timothy Atherton wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> if anyone is thinking of photographing in N.O..... >>>> >>>>> From Donald Winslow at the NPPA: >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> Subject: Photojournalists Covering Katrina Fall Victim To Growing >>>> Violence, Chaos >>>> Importance: High >>>> >>>> >>>> Full Story Online At: >>>> http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2005/09/hurricane2.html >>>> >>>> Photojournalists Covering Katrina Fall Victim To Growing Violence, Chaos >>>> >>>> AUSTIN, TX (September 1, 2005) ­ As photojournalists continue to >>>> >>>> >>> document >>> >>> >>>> the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina?s violent assault on the Gulf Coast, >>>> today they also found themselves documenting new violence and death >>>> among >>>> the survivors, the refugees, and the looters and police and rescuers in >>>> New >>>> Orleans, while some photojournalists even fell victim to the violence >>>> themselves. >>>> >>>> Two veteran photojournalists - NPPA member Rick Wilking of Reuters and >>>> Getty's Mark Wilson - were robbed of cameras and computer equipment >>>> today >>>> while on assignment in a neighborhood in New Orleans, and a >>>> photojournalist >>>> and a reporter were confronted at gunpoint and slammed against a wall by >>>> police following a shoot-out between looters and cops that left at least >>>> one >>>> person dead. >>>> >>>> Another photojournalist - Lucas Oleniuk of the Toronto Star - was >>>> knocked >>>> to >>>> the ground by police, his gear taken from him initially, when he >>>> photographed them shooting at looters and then beating one. A New York >>>> Times >>>> photojournalist and Times-Picayune reporter Gordon Russell were slammed >>>> into >>>> a wall by police at gunpoint after they witnessed a shoot-out between >>>> cops >>>> and looters that left at least one person dead. >>>> >>>> In response to the growing violence and an increasing sense of despair >>>> among >>>> the stranded survivors, some television networks have hired armed >>>> private >>>> security firms to protect their journalists as they work to cover the >>>> story. >>>> >>>> Full Story Online At: >>>> http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2005/09/hurricane2.html >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> Chris Saganich, Sr. Physicist >> Weill Medical College of Cornell University >> New York Presbyterian Hospital >> >> Ph. 212.746.6964 >> Fax. 212.746.4800 >> A0049 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? 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