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Subject: [Leica] Jeffery is OK/ answering JB
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Wed Aug 31 22:31:39 2005
References: <4cfa589b050831174049ac7244@mail.gmail.com> <BF3BCE24.4850%bdcolen@comcast.net>

Not all resources, B.D., and especially amphibious resources, are
involved in Iraq. However I don't KNOW what's where and I don't have
an easy way of finding out. I suspect that even in a pre-Iraq footing
there wouldn't be such resources working right now.

adam

On 8/31/05, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote:
> Texas, the Atlantic? Try Iraq. The resources were already stretched so thin
> it was pitiful - take a look at some of the stories about how many 
> thousands
> of Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, and Arkansas National Guard troops are
> deployed in Iraq.
> 
> 
> On 8/31/05 8:40 PM, "Adam Bridge" <abridge@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Getting the ROV to the Russian submariners was a non-trivial evolution
> > that had been PLANNED for in detail buy the combined
> > submarine-operating services. They were lucky that only the minimal
> > response had been required. Getting a DSRV onto the site would have
> > taken a lot longer and would be much more difficult. And all of that
> > is because the scenerio is one which can be planned for and which
> > experts from the various nations meet together and talk about these
> > things. Yes, even the Russians, finally. And the Chinese too.
> >
> > There was a lot of Navy response to the tsunami because there were
> > vessels in the area due to the war on terrorism operations so there
> > was an aircraft carrier that could operate off-shore.
> >
> > But the military doesn't routinely PLAN for these kinds of rescue
> > evolution. It's not their primary mission.
> >
> > No one plans for things like this - the submergance of a city is not
> > common. Could the EU do better if, say, Venice sank? I don't think so.
> >
> > It's frustrating to watch this and we all have movie-bred expectations
> > of how quickly resources can be put on task. I don't know where those
> > amphibious vehicles are kept, or if they are loaded onto ships, and
> > how ready to steam the ships are - it just takes TIME. The Marine
> > Corps vehicles might be on the Atlantic or down in Texas - or even on
> > the west coast. it's not like they are staged, ready to roll. And the
> > ships to carry them may have maintenance operations going on that need
> > to be finished before they can set to sea.
> >
> > It's just a difficult problem and it's NOT that the military doesn't
> > want to respond.
> >
> > Adam bridge
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/05, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> >> I always find it absolutely sickening that the military forces around
> >> the world , which have the most advanced rescue and recovery equipment,
> >> are always the last to get to a disaster area.
> >> If my country (the UK) can get an ROV to rescue a few Russian
> >> submariners within 12 hours then how come other equipment can't be
> >> deployed in a disaster area just as fast.
> >> The Coast Guard / Lifeboat service / Helicopter Medics are always there
> >> days before - This is not a US problem this is global,
> >
> >
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