Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/08/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]yes he did, but he was talking about "really good glass" designed for digital On 8/30/05, Scott McLoughlin <scott@adrenaline.com> wrote: > Didn't Puts have some other article claiming that digital > was going to require really good glass? Hmmmm..... > > Bob Haight wrote: > > >I'll jump in here on the Put's article. I thought it > >interesting that he downplays lens quality with > >digital due to what he says is enlargement without > >distortion through software eliminating the need for > >top quality lenses as was needed with film > >enlargements. This is a critical point because Leica > >is betting people will insist on using their glass > >with digital. Erwin thinks this may not be the case. > >An interesting read from Erwin, especially his pics > >vis a vis the lenses used. > > > >--- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > >>It's raw, Scott. The current generation of Canons - > >>20D, EOS MKII - etc. are > >>incredibly impressive in terms of controlling noise. > >> > >> > >>On 8/28/05 12:27 PM, "Scott McLoughlin" > >><scott@adrenaline.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>If no noise-removal has been applied, that is on > >>> > >>> > >>damn impressive > >> > >> > >>>ISO3200 image. > >>> > >>>Scott > >>> > >>>B. D. Colen wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Speaking of the narrowing gap.... > >>>>This image taken with the new full-frame Canon 5D > >>>> > >>>> > >>and posted as a raw at > >> > >> > >>>>dpreview, was shot at 3200 iso... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >http://img.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos5d_preview/img_0128-raw-rit.jpg > > > > > >>>>The question isn't the DMR and Leica's survival, > >>>> > >>>> > >>but with Canon pushing this > >> > >> > >>>>out the door at about 3K, it's every other > >>>> > >>>> > >>company's ultimate survival.... > >> > >> > >>>>On 8/28/05 11:42 AM, "Steven A. Melnyk" > >>>> > >>>> > >><melnyk@msu.edu> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I have just had a chance to review Erwin's > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>comments on the DM-R and > >> > >> > >>>>>frankly I am not too surprised. The long-term > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>forecast for products > >> > >> > >>>>>such as the DM--R is not good. Why? What we > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>have in the DM-R is an > >> > >> > >>>>>example of a hybrid technology. These products > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>and the technology > >> > >> > >>>>>that they are based typically represent a > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>stop-gap measure. Examples > >> > >> > >>>>>include the QBOF (the transition between the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>open hearth steel > >> > >> > >>>>>furnace and the Basic Oxygen Furnace), the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>bias-ply radial, and the > >> > >> > >>>>>steamship with sails. In each case, the product > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>thrived for a short > >> > >> > >>>>>period of time but ultimately they fail. They > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>are replaced by > >> > >> > >>>>>superior products and superior technology. > >>>>> > >>>>>In spite of how much we enjoy Leicas, their > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>lenses and their > >> > >> > >>>>>products, the reality is that for most > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>photographers, the future is > >> > >> > >>>>>digital, With new advances coming out as > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>quickly as they have been, > >> > >> > >>>>>increasingly the quality gap between film and > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>digital is rapidly > >> > >> > >>>>>closing. I have a number of Leicas (M5, M6 TTL, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>M7, R9). Yet, I no > >> > >> > >>>>>longer use them as often. Whenever I go out, I > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>find myself reaching > >> > >> > >>>>>for my Canon 20D or my Nikon D2H. > >>>>> > >>>>>Frankly, I am not too optimistic about the DM-R. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> It is simply far > >> > >> > >>>>>too little, too late, and too expense. My two > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>cents worth. > >> > >> > >>>>>Steven A. Melnyk > >>>>>Department of Marketing & Supply Chain > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>Management > >> > >> > >>>>>Michigan State University > >>>>>melnyk@msu.edu > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>Leica Users Group. > >>>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>for more information > >> > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>Leica Users Group. > >>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>>> > >>>> > >>for more information > >> > >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Leica Users Group. > >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>> > >>> > >>for more information > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Leica Users Group. > >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for > >>more information > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leica Users Group. > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad