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Subject: [Leica] NYT Public Editor on Press Photography
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Sun Jul 3 14:05:00 2005
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Scott, in fact it could be either or both. My intended meaning was that the 
Times assumed its readers are elite and would therefore conclude that this 
was not the photograph of a real event. Rash assumption. Sorry for my lack 
of clarity.    ;-)

Seth


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott McLoughlin" <scott@adrenaline.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] NYT Public Editor on Press Photography


> Yeah, I was wondering if it was an "elitist assumption" or an assumption
> that the readers themselves "are elite."
>
> But I generally write off just about any opinion when the "elitist" word
> comes up, so I didn't wonder too long :-)
> But I went to Harvard, so what the hell do I know?
>
> LOL ROTFL
>
> But back on topic, the possibility of a photograph being misinterpreted
> as a more "factual" than illustrative photo is always a real issue.
>
> Sure, why not?  Just think of all the sensationalist headlines and copy 
> that
> passes for "news," even in the relatively dry business press and industry
> trade rags. Maybe moreso there, because it's so dry to begin with :-)
>
> Scott
>
> Adam Bridge wrote:
>
>>I don't understand the use of "elitist" in this context.
>>On 7/3/05, Seth Rosner <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>And there are at least two problems with the response of the Times 
>>>editors:
>>>that NY Times readers will recognize the difference.
>>>
>>>1) it  makes quite elitist assumptions about the paper's readers and 2) 
>>>it
>>>omits to consider how people with a different ideological point of view 
>>>from
>>>that attributed to Times readers will point to the misleading inferences 
>>>as
>>>attempts to mislead deliberately Times readers into believing that these
>>>were real photographs of real torture.
>>>
>>
>>
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