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Subject: [Leica] Re:where oh where is the DMR now Canon
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Fri Jul 1 15:14:50 2005
References: <BEEAFD6C.17A46%mark@rabinergroup.com>

If I'm not mistaken, some of my favorite Ilford films come only
in 120 now, not 220.  I can always pick up a 220 back should I
discover some films that I like for MF shooting.

I haven't really consider a 645 camera, except perhaps the Fuji or
Bronica RF's. Don't know, I guess when I think "bigger neg" I want
a much bigger neg :-) 

Yes, I've even toyed with picking up a used 4x5 field camera.  But
for now, I'd like to develop in the Patterson tank I already have and
not completely rejigger my current modus operandi if I don't have to.
But shooting and contact printing 5x7 or 8x10 negatives definitely
sounds like an experience I'd like to have sometime in my life.

Scott

Mark Rabiner wrote:

>On 7/1/05 6:11 AM, "Stasys Petravicius" <stasys1@cox.net> typed:
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>>Mark- I get 20 shots on my pentax 6 x 7 with a roll of 220 - except the
>>last time I used it- got no shots. The battery died. My spare batteries
>>were down the hill. Before use I had checked the battery- Battery
>>checks are not what they used to be. Will carry a spare in my pocket
>>next time. Live and learn!! Stasys
>>On Jun 30, 2005, at 7:36 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
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>220 rules as far as I go.
>I shoot as much 220 as I can.
>I've got great Hewes reels for 2200 which take a licking and keep on
>ticking. The cheap ones use wires the same as for 35mm. They screw up if you
>look at them funny. Drop them and you might as well trash them.
>I'm sure there's Titanium in theses Hewes reels somewhere. :)
>
>So no I don't think 12 I think 24 just like you!
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>Or 32 for 645 which is an arrangement I've not quite swung yet.
>But to me its the quality of brownie film with the spontaneity and convince
>of 36 on a roll 35mm making for the ultimate "format" I can think of.
>32 on a roll being close enough to 36 for me not not notice.
>When I used to roll my own that's what I got anyway.
>
>For years my only Hasselblad was an ELM and my spare battery was my
>Rolleiflex.
>My only back as a 220 and my Rolleiflex was a 220 capable model.
>(which I believe they refer to as an "f".)
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>For me, to go into what I call "Ansel Adams mode" I shoot slow film.
>Even they he shot faster film with his Hassy and I just wonder about that.
>(and with the developer he supposedly used (hc-110) I'll frankly say I just
>don't believe it)
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>And Pan f does not come in 220.
>Neither does ACROS 100 from Fuji Neopan.
>So I use my "studio" film.
>What I think of as black and white Kodachrome for it's skin tones; For
>landscapes now.
>Plus X for Peets sake!
>But like anything it's a new ball game in Xtol 1:3.
>
>I will shortly be experimenting with doing such work digitally.
>In terms of printing.
>And shooting chromegic films both monochrome as well as regular, though slow
>220 color neg for 13x19 and larger landscapes and such stuff.
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>I do have to make a test of the 400 speed chromegic monochrome 220 films
>from Kodak to see if they do give plus x a run for it's money.
>More than half a chance it will.
>
>It's my understanding that many of the good people are having 300mg scans
>made from their large format or medium format negs and the medium of choice
>is not Cibachrome: it's modern name,
>Not LightJet. Lazer beams from scans on regular color paper. (it so 1999)
>But UltraChrome.
>Which means Epson printers on very good paper. Matte.
>This is where the color landscape fineart thing seems to have gone.
>It will be interesting to see how much black and white will be absorbed into
>it over the next 5 years.
>I predict that even in many years a third of it will still be printed in the
>darkroom from film.
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>Mark Rabiner
>Photography
>Portland Oregon
>http://rabinergroup.com/
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