Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/05/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sorry to hurt your feelings, Mark - When I was shooting film, I did so with a combination of Leica glass and Nikon glass - I have used both on and off for more than 40 years. And, no, I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference between my Leica images and my Nikon images - I know that I can't, with the exception of those shot with the Leica 21 ASPH for the M and those shot with wide Nikons, which do not begin to measure up. And, btw, I don't claim to be master printer, so I don't know what my saying that the black and white prints produced by an HP printer compare to custom RC prints has to do with a discussion of the work of Sabastio Salgado; I'd step in front of an oncoming bus before I'd deign to compare my prints, or any of my photography, to Salgados. ;-) >On 5/23/05 8:36 AM, "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net> typed: > >> Mark Rabiner actually wrote, apparently with a straight face - >>> >>> I did notice when I got my 60 AF macro Nikor last year that for not that >>> much more I could have gotten a used 60 macro Leica lens. Same one >>> Salgato >>> uses for so much stuff and I've seen those prints. And they look >>>better than >>> mine. And its not his enlarger lens or something he's putting in >>>his Dektol. >>> Subject matter not included. >> >> >> Could it be, Mark, that he is a far, far better photographer than you >> (or I, or anyone on this list - no company excepted), that his >> negatives contain more information than yours, absolutely perfectly >> exposed, and that his printer puts you to shame? Salgado is nothing >> if not the consummate photocraftsman working today in black and white >> documentary photography; the only other photographer who comes close >> is Nachtwey. To suggest that the difference between his prints and >> yours might be a Leica macro versus the Nikon macro is such utter >> foolishness it boggles the mind: It is, in fact, an absolutely >> classic example of someone suggesting that "if I had me one of those >> Leiky cameras I'd be as good as that Hank Breson dude, but I've only >> got a crappy Canon/Nikon/Olympus/Minolta." ;-) >> >> >> >> >I'm not about to compare myself as a photographer to Sebastian Salgato but I >can I know what "information" is in a print and generally how it got there. >And that kind of quality doesn't come from Nikon lens was my strong >impression from 40 years experience in darkroom work and a body of work and >portfolios to show for it. >It comes from Leica lenses. I felt the Salgato show showed me the value of >Leica glass. >And if you thought so you'd be using Leica lenses too but you don't and I >don't think ever much took much stock in Leica glass or Leica anything. >Hence your non use the stuff. > >I'm now reading that you feel my opinion on this is such utter foolishness >it boggles your mind. >Believe me I could care what boggles your mind. >One of these days one of us who does not prefer to remain anonymous will see >one of your prints and tell us about it. > > >Mark Rabiner >Photography >Portland Oregon >http://rabinergroup.com/ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- B. D. Colen Sr. Communications Officer for University Science Office of the Vice President for Government, Community, and Public Affairs Harvard University 617-495-7821 617-413-1224 - cell bd_colen@harvard.edu