[Leica] Black and White Printing

[mcyclwritr at comcast.net (mcyclwritr@comcast.net)]

B.D., you're right about the HP 8750's enhanced potential for better color 
prints--the ninth ink is color. I was just considering b&w output. 

When I first heard about the 8750, I thought I'd have to snatch one as soon 
as it came out. Now, I'm not so sure. I'm certainly happy with the b&w and 
color output of my 8450, but its wanton ink consumption of HP 100 gray ink 
cartridges at $20+ per pop to grind out max-size 8.5" x 11" prints makes me 
wonder how many 13" x 19" b&w prints I'd get per ink cart. Or, perhaps, how 
many carts it'd take to print a 13" x 19".

In HP's favor, it does denote the HP 100 photo gray ink cart as plain, old 
"gray," not the trying-to-be-definitive-and-still-laughably-failing 
"light-light black" of Epson. Will ensuing Epson printers feature an even 
greater number of ink tanks with the attendant list of names? 
"Not-quite-as-black-as-ace-of-spades black." "Midnight-at-the-oasis black." 
"Quadroon black." "Lawyeresque-gray-area black."    

-Chris Lawson


> The 8750 color print, which uses a 9 ink system, should actually be an
> improvement over the 8450 - and the black and white is said to be the same.
> The question now is not whether the HP is good enough, but whether the new
> Epson is as good or better in terms of black and white. If the Epson is as
> good as the HP, and offers more paper choices, it may prove to be the
> winner. But then comes the question of ink consumption and ink price. And 
> as
> you note, the 8450 really sucks up the ink.
> 
> 
> On 5/16/05 10:37 AM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Another possibility for b&w and color printing up to 13" x 19" is the 
> > nine-ink
> > HP 8750. I am not recommending it over any Epson printer. Just 
> > mentioning it
> > because I saw it advertised for the first time in this weekend's Office 
> > Depot
> > flyer (Denver) at $499.00. Which is either full list price or street 
> > price,
> > depending on whether you buy into the street-price, phantom discount 
> > pricing
> > scam. 
> > 
> > Pricing strategy suspicions aside, it should do b&w as well as the HP 
> > 8450.
> > And given my 8450's prodigious ink consumption per print, you probably 
> > ought
> > to buy some HP stock just to feel better about your ink bill.
> > 
> > -Chris Lawson
> > 
> > 
> >> If any of you are using your Leica's to shoot black and white (or 
> >> colour for
> >> that matter), you will be pleased to know of the new Epson line of
> >> replacement 
> >> printers coming soon. Joseph Holmes has published an extensive review 
> >> of the
> >> 9800 model due out this fall. According to his tests, DMAX of 2.45 is
> >> possible 
> >> while he mentions that Ansel Adams prints were DMAX 2.30. That is quite 
> >> an
> >> achievement. The link is here,
> >> 
> >> http://www.josephholmes.com/news.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Looks like a great group of printers coming with the new Ultrachrome K3
> >> inkset.
> >> 
> >> Good reading,
> >> 
> >> Scott Gregory
> >> London, Ontario
> >>  
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