Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/04/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Richard, Yes, I've read his praise for the 7960. I've used that too, and while I agree that it makes prints that look good, they are not easily mistaken for wet prints. I was only looking at RC prints. When I compare fiberbase prints, the tilt goes even more vertiginously towards the wet prints. Bob > Bob, you realized that B.D. has done a test with B&W wet print vs. HP7960 > B&W print and he claims the results are different but comparable right? > > While I don't do wet prints, my 7960 B&W do look quite gorgeous.... > > At 09:38 PM 4/27/2005, you wrote: > > >>John, >> >>I think you have identified exactly what is most important. I have just >>been going through a stack of B&W 8x10's of mine from the last three >>years, or so. These are just first prints, or file or work prints, but >>their quality is just overwhelming -- the detail and the tonal range are >>outstanding, and I've never gotten a B&W digital print that is anywhere >>near as good. Not from my D70 or from a scanned Leica negative, not even >>on my Epson C86 printer with the MIS carbon black and gray inks. The >>quality of output of film cameras is just in another orbit from digital. >>Your second criterion is even more tilted in favor of film, if that is >>possible. No digital camera has the qualities in the hand and up to the >>eye that a Leica has, or even a Hexar RF, or a Nikon FM2. This is very, >>very important for getting a good picture in the first place. So the two >>things go hand in hand and the result is, IMHO, much better pictures. >> >>Bob >> >>>For me two things matter: the quality of the output and the user >>>interface. I use M cameras because they suit the way I see period. I am >>>only loyal to Leica in that they are the only ones providing what I need. >>>99% of my output is projected slide and projected digital is just not >>>there yet quality wise. It will get there eventually and, if Leica comes >>>out with a M digital, I will seriously weigh the options. For one thing >>>present digital projectors, even with their relatively poor quality >>>output, are extremely expensive to buy and maintain. Sure film and >>>processing are expensive but have you priced out replacement bulbs for >>>digital projectors?!! >>> >>>John Collier >>> >>>On 27-Apr-05, at 8:35 PM, Don Dory wrote: >>> >>>>In the almost five years I have been participating on the LUG, there has >>>>been a rather dramatic shift in conversation. When I first started >>>>paying attention, this was definitely a gear head discussion, we were >>>>very interested in Marc's book on LTM lenses, long treatises on small >>>>differences in the 50's, scotch religious wars, Tilley hats and more. >>>> >>>>In the last year the transformation to primarily digital has been >>>>profound; actual Leica discussion has dropped to a very minor part. >>>>Even film based discussion is a minority. >>>> >>>>I understand that for many, the tool does not matter. Nathan, B.D., >>>>Ted, Tina, Sonny, and many others have made the transition to digital an >>>>easy move. Strangely enough, for me, the tool does matter: I get along >>>>fine with a variety of cameras and formats but an M or a SL becomes an >>>>extension of my eye more so than any other photographic tool. While I >>>>respect the need of the professional to streamline workflow, speed up >>>>the billing process, or just plain know they have the shot in the bag, I >>>>find great joy in going over new negatives or slides; love the >>>>serendipity when the combination of chemistry and accident create >>>>wonderful images far more that looking at an LCD. >>>> >>>>So I guess what I am really wondering is, how many of us on the list are >>>>somewhat nostalgic for film, or have genuinely embraced the digital >>>>revolution? >>>> >>>>Don >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please > use richard at imagecraft.com) > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >