Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/04/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The reality here, Ted, is that I think because so few people put in the time and effort to learn how to take photos unobtrusively, and put in the work needed to then perfect doing it, they figure that there's some piece of equipment that allows one to do it magically. And just as many people think that any snapshot taken with a Leica is ready for hanging in the MOMA, so they think that to be successful at unobtrusive photography one has to use a Leica, and, conversely, if you use a Leica, you will of course be successful at unobtrusive photography because it is so "quiet." :-) B. D. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Ted Grant Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:43 AM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Re:Black ZI B. D. Colen offered: > Yes, the M is wonderfully quite, and I like that fact. But there are >many cameras that are wonderfully quite - (as I think I posted a while >ago, when I fired off my M, and then my E-1 DSLR to demonstrate the M's >quiet to my students, they all thought the M was "louder" than the >DSLR. I think they're about the same, but the sounds are 'different.') >Certainly Rollei TLRs are quieter than the M. Hi B.D., I've tried the same thing with people listening for the "quiet M shutter" and had similar re-action. However, I think what happens is, people "turn -up their hearing" and are distinctly listening for a sound, therefore more aware in the "click of the M." Where in fact, if their minds are involved with something else and normal peripheral sounds, they do not distinguish the shutter sound from anything else. I've shot during meetings with a dozen people around a board room table and never once had anyone re-mark about camera noise, nor my movements about the room while changing shoot positions. The secret of changing positions is to have cased the room first, know exactly where you are going to move to, then watch the eye direction of the people and when they're pretty well all looking in the opposite direction to you, move quietly and smoothly to your new position, sit down, wait and be still. In most cases you have changed position and sitting on the other side of the room and the majority of the people at the table never know you've moved. Just like a stealth bomber. ;-) >What matters in unobtrusive, stealth if you will, photography, is NOT >the shutter noise, but how you handle the camera, and how you conduct >yourself. If YOU are quiet and unobtrusive, and if you don't keep >bouncing the camera up and down from your face, you can shoot with a >shoulder mounted rocket launcher and no one will notice you. <<<<<<< Absolutely right on the mark!! I've watched photographer's attract attention to themselves like a bull elephant in a china shop. While others move with the smooth silent motion of a ghost. It's about motion and movement, and one can stand or sitting 10 feet or less from someone and shoot without ever drawing attention to themselves that they're actually shooting. When I first acquired Leica's many years ago I was fascinated with the photography of the greats of the day in "how could they shoot so close and people not know they had taken a picture?" It's a learning process by doing it over and over again. Then when you get it right you can sit on a park bench while shooting the person sitting at the other end and they never know you've actually made an exposure of them. You never look at them and there's never any direct eye contact at anytime. You only see them in the view finder! And if they look at you, you just keep the camera to your eye as if you're taking a picture beyond them. When you put camera down you look right past them into infinity. In many cases the subject will look in the direction you're looking to see what you're taking a picture of. ;-) KISS baby! ;-) Once you have that down pat you can shoot almost anywhere and be invisible. :-) ted _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information