[Leica] Re:Black ZI

[bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)]

As the proud and at times embarrassed owner of a 6008, I have to say
that I'm surprised you even got away with a second shot! :-) Those damn
things are LOUD. 

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Slobodan Dimitrov
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:33 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re:Black ZI


Not even the newer SLR's have cost me a shot. The R8 with the winder is 
also environment friendly.
Sometime ago at the first Reform Party convention in Long Beach, CA, I 
was  using a Rollei 6006 as my primary camera.
Ok, so I knew that the camera was loud, but I didn't know until the 
last day just how loud loud was.
At the last day's key note speech, the chairman gets on the microphone 
tells the audience that who ever was using that noisy old fashioned 
camera not to use in the auditorium during the speech. Apparently, 
according to him, the camera was used next to the documentary film crew 
during most of the time that they were shooting. He went on to say that 
it made the whole documentary unusable because the sound couldn't be 
edited out.
So here I'm standing with the photographers, and half of them turn 
around and just look at me and the camera. Oh, well!
S. Dimitrov


On Apr 23, 2005, at 5:31 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:

> I'd love to know when shutter noise - not old-fashioned SLR clatter - 
> but RF shutter noise, cost anyone on this list an important shot. 
> Because I can tell you that it has NEVER cost me any shot at all. Yes,

> the M is wonderfully quite, and I like that fact. But there are many 
> cameras that are wonderfully quite - (as I think I posted a while ago,

> when I fired off my M, and then my E-1 DSLR to demonstrate the M's 
> quiet to my students, they all thought the M was "louder" than the 
> DSLR. I think they're about the same, but the sounds are 'different.')
> Certainly
> the Rollei TLRs are quieter than the M.
>
> What matters in unobtrusive, stealth if you will, photography, is NOT 
> the shutter noise, but how you handle the camera, and how you conduct 
> yourself. If YOU are quiet and unobtrusive, and if you don't keep 
> bouncing the camera up and down from your face, you can shoot with a 
> shoulder mounted rocket launcher and no one will notice you.
>
> All of which is to say, the new Zeiss M body may or may not be any
> good,
> but the 'ohmygod' that shutter is noisier than an M is pretty
> meaningless.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of Didier Ludwig
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:40 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re:Black ZI
>
>
> The ZI shutter might not only feel and sound like a Bessa shutter
> (never
>
> had a ZI in my hands), but it definitely looks exactly like the 
> shutter of my Bessa L. I guess it IS the Bessa shutter. The Bessa L is
> significantly
> louder than a M6, but afaik, the Bessa R2 and and R3a shutters have 
> been
>
> improved and make less noise.
>
>> The shutter isn't any louder then a Bessa.  When I handled one this 
>> summer at a trade show it felt and sounded just like a Bessa.
>> Christopher Saganich
>
>>> http://www.screengang.com/deed/ZI/index.php?img=02
>
>
>
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