Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/03/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Fair enough. And I still like your photographs. :-) > From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:09:52 -0500 > To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org> > Subject: RE: [Leica] B. D. PAW > > No - Not at all. But I think a "photograph" is a single image captured > by a camera. You are using photographic images to create a different > kind of art. That's all. > > The bottom line, Philippe, is that we disagree, and will always disagree > on this. You have decided to do a project combining individual > photographs; I wish you good luck with the project, but I don't consider > the end product of what you are producing to be "photography." But I > know that there are many who disagree with me. :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > Philippe Orlent > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:57 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] B. D. PAW > > > So Photography equals Photojournalism? > >> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:17:03 -0500 >> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] B. D. PAW >> >> Oh, God, here we go...:-) >> Smith would be fired today because, oddly enough, while virtually all >> print and broadcast reporting journalism standards have deteriorated >> to a terrifying degree over the past 15 years, those for photo >> journalism have markedly improved. Frankly, that may have something to > >> do with the advent of digital and the increasing ease with which one >> can alter or even fake images. While all sort of manipulation was >> acceptable, or at least winked at in Smith's day, today's photo >> journalists are, on the whole, held to a standard that says beyond >> cropping, you don't alter an image. You can use Photoshop to burn and >> dodge in order to bring the image close to what the eye may have seen, > >> but beyond that, you don't fool with the image. >> >> And as to your work - yes, you are a photographer - when you take each > >> image. But I would argue that your end product is not a photograph, >> but rather a "photo composition," or a some such. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >> Of Philippe Orlent >> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:07 AM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] B. D. PAW >> >> >>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:56:22 -0500 >>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org> >>> Subject: RE: [Leica] B. D. PAW >>> >>> Sure, you could tone in the darkroom, but again, this is a different >> matter. >> Look, you've decided that you want to use multiple images to produce a >>> single image. >> (And yes, I know that one of >> Eugene Smith's iconic images was produced by sandwiching two >> negatives; I also know that today he'd be instantly fired for doing >> that. ;-)) >> --- >> Thanks for your answer, B.D. >> But if I've decided anything it is only that I want to produce images >> using a camera, wether it is with a single image or with several. > Also, >> I don't see why darkroom toning would be different to PS duotoning. > I've >> done both with pretty much the same goal and results. Finally, and out >> of curiosity, why would Smith be fired today? For twisting the truth? >> IMO THE truth doesn't exist anymore, if it ever has, that is. >> >> Kind regards, >> Philippe >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >