Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/03/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I don't see a problem either, Gene - I just think that folks who buy new lenses when the same lenses are available used in functionally and optically perfect condition are just a tad crazy. But that's just my personal opinion. :-) -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of grduprey@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:11 PM To: lug@leica-users.org Subject: Re: [Leica] 75mm F/2 M lens? BD Now if no one buys new lenses, then where are the used ones going to come from? Someone has to buy them first. Personnally I see no problem here. gene -----Original Message----- From: B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:23:35 -0500 Subject: RE: [Leica] 75mm F/2 M lens? No, Joseph, you don't need to visit a shrink, you only need to realize that your perspective as a dealer is very different from mine as a customer. I cannot for the life of me figure out why someone would buy a Leica prime lens new when they can get the same lens used at a fraction of the price. I don't need packaging. I don't need goofy little booklets in Germlish. I just need a lens. And if the lens is in good shape - which a quick inspection will tell me, why pay the premium? After all, Leica lenses will outlive me - and without servicing. Bodies, I feel, are a different matter - particularly when they have any electronics in them. If I can afford to, I prefer to buy bodies new so that I know I am not getting someone else's headache, and so that I can get the ridiculously good Leica warranty. But lenses? Come on. I repeat my statement that "anyone who goes out today and buys a new 75 1.4 (even if they do buy it from someone as reliable and delightful as you) is out of his or her mind." :-) B. D. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Yao Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:15 PM To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> Subject: Re: [Leica] 75mm F/2 M lens? on 21/3/05 2:02 am, B. D. Colen at bdcolen@earthlink.net wrote: > As to cost comparison - anyone who goes out today and buys a new 75 > 1.4 > - assuming he or she can find a used one- is out of his or her mind. > $3000? Nuts. Pick one up used and save maybe $1K over the new Summicron > AND get an extra stop along with the $1K saving. I may be nuts by your standard but why would I want to buy a used lens when new ones are readily available? The saving of $1k is nowhere enough to offset my discomfort of such compromise. This is not a case of the R 35-70/2.8 ASPH when no new ones are available. ;-) Firstly, the M 75/1.4 would not cost me US$3,000 as we do not have a greedy Leica importer here. Secondly and more importantly, I would never buy used if the same is available new. The same applies not only to photo equipment, but also to cars, fine watches and just about everything. I find it very hard to accept something that has been used, fondled and possessed by someone else. The only exception is when the item in question is no longer available new. In such case I would only consider 'new-old-stock', followed by LNIB, MIB and as a severe compromise, 'mint-'. Perhaps I need to see a shrink, but then I did not marry a divorcee either. Joseph - overworked ER doc with OCD regarding new Leica toys ;-) _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information