[Leica] LEICA could be clever

[s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov)]

I think in B.D.'s case, it's more like man bites camera.
S. Dimitrov



On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> On 2/22/05 5:17 AM, "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> typed:
>
>> Luis, I would suggest that Leica cannot survive independently because 
>> it
>> has for some time been run by people who have no competency in running
>> late 20th, early 21st century businesses. The only way it can possibly
>> "survive" is if another company - Cosina? Canon? - buys it, probably 
>> to
>> come out with a digital rangefinder with an M lens mount which it will
>> badge Leica, and perhaps to keep the M7 manufacturing going. I believe
>> it's safe to predict that who ever takes over Leica will do away with
>> all the special order camera nonsense, and will probably kill off the
>> MP.
>>
> Actually B.D. you might keep in mind that as this is the Leica Users 
> Group
> this is a group of people who use Leicas.
> The PRODUCT that this famously bad management group you keep harping 
> about
> endlessly MAKES NOW. It is their current or recent PRODUCT.
> Which they deserve credit for.
> Most of us are into the new stuff. The new "product".
> The same basic management and certainly the company that since I 
> started
> getting into Leica 12 years ago come out with the revolutionary
> 24 ASPH
> 21 ASPH
> 35 Summicron and Summilux both ASPH.
> 50 Summilux ASPH and collapsible Elmar, my next lens probably,.
> 90 Elmarit and APO ASPH Summicron and collapsible macro.
> 135 3.4 Telyt APO
> The m7 and Mp and the m6 TTL.
> Much of this I've bought into and used since it's come out in the last
> twelve years I've been getting more and more into Leica.
> As you'd think others on this list might also be doing.
>
> And all kinds of R stuff which I know less about.
>
> No company in the world have come up with products year after year 
> which
> have so consistently consumed my funds and time than Leica.
> Yes my Leicas are worth a bit more than what I paid for my used 94 
> Volvo
> station wagon.
> Not my house though. I guess my first and top devotion goes to the 
> house
> making industry. I should just the House Users Group. That's where my 
> money
> is.
>
> So there is nothing amazing about my appreciation for Leica the 
> company or
> management.
> I use the products the company has come out with over the past dozen 
> years.
>
> And it's not so amazing that as a NON Leica user, BD you'd NOT think so
> highly of them. Even be HIGHLY CRITICAL of them.
> But it's not exactly "MAN BITES DOG".
> The only thing amazing to me is why you are here feeling the need to
> continually hit us with this nasty negative line. You just never run 
> out of
> hot air!
>
> Leica is down and gasping now.
> Me I hate to see it being kicked while it's down here by people who 
> never
> liked it to begin with.
> Its just too obvious.
> But criticized by those who have a real interest in it.
> A real positive interest in it.
> To me that's real conversation.
> Lets hear some real critical cutting insight by someone who's made a
> commitment to Leica use.
> That's more "MAN BITES DOG". Or at least good conversation.
>
> I think instead of people cavalierly making jokes about whose going to 
> buy
> Leica, Michel Jackson or Walt Disney some of us do something positive 
> like a
> friend of mine just did yesterday.
> Buy a Leica.
> Actually he bought a collapsible 90. I may do the same.
>
> The news is that Leica is in very deep trouble and might go under.
> Not that they PROBABLY will go under.
> And not that they're GOING to go under for sure.
>
> You would think the Leica Users Group would be behind Leica.
>
>
> Mark Rabiner
> Photography
> Portland Oregon
> http://rabinergroup.com/
>
>
>
>
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Slobodan Dimitrov
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