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Subject: [Leica] A 70-200 by any other crop circle...
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Sat Feb 19 09:11:05 2005
References: <BE3C9BD5.101C3%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I've been eyeing the Sigma 18-50 f2.8 (29-80) for that very reason.
It's the only constant f2.8 in that focal range for Canon.
With digital I don't have the same quality constraints on the optics.
But I do keep an EOS-R adapter in the bag for that just in case series 
of moments.
S. Dimitrov

On Feb 19, 2005, at 7:31 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> Wide zooms may have captured the imagination of the worlds shutterbugs 
> but
> the most useful zoom for me has always been the venerable 70-200.
> On the white backdrop for me it'd been a real money maker.
> And a great pull over by the side of the road on car trips lens.
>
> Good for Olympus to be I think the first to come out with a digital 
> lens
> with translates to those magic numbers. And I'd settle for anything 
> close.
> But Olympus I see on the dp preview has come out with a 35-100mm which 
> for
> them at their 2x crop level translates directly to 70-200!
> But the big news for many is that this lens is a fixed Summicron, I 
> mean f2.
> They call their f2's something else I'd imagine. Zuiko or Zed or Zack.
> Zephrin
>
> Can you image how heavy an f2 70-200 would be for 35mm film?!!!
> The current Nikon 2.8 which is a VR weighs 3.20 lbs (1.5 kg)?
> The Leica VARIO-APO-ELMARIT-R f/2.8/70-180 mm weights 4.12 lbs (1.870 
> kg)
>
> My guess is about twice that!
>
> To get something like a 70-200 with the most popular 1.5 crop factor 
> you'd
> have to have it be a 50-135.
> That would translate exactly to a 75-202.5 but that's close enough.
> Nikon doesn't make anything resembling this.
> No one much does.
> Third party lens company Sigma makes a 55-200 which has it's heart in 
> the
> right place.
> Because consumer level 70-200's are 70-300's now.
> It's hard to find a cheap 70-200 anymore. They're all monster 2.8's for
> pros.
> I don't need 300. (or 2.8) I need a more compact zoom lens.
> I'd have to get an old one.
> Canon makes a 55-200 like the Sigma. Better I'd assume.
>
> There's no word out yet that I can make out just how COMPACT Olympus is
> going to be able to make their f2 35-100mm(= 70-200) yet.
> It might not be compact but it's hopefully not going to be a monster 
> either.
> Otherwise what's the point?
> To make faster lenses at the same size and weight as what we're used 
> to?
> Give me a more compact lenses at the same speed anyday to start with.
> To make faster lenses at the same size and weight might make nice gravy
> later on down the road.
> But if I was shooting that E system I'd be real exited to see this 
> 35-100mm
> come out at any bulk rate anyway.
> One nice thing about this 2x crop circle....
> IT'S EASY TO DO THE MATH!
> 1.5 I have get out the Kodak digital dataguide.
> Which I don't think has come out yet.
> Or has been thought of.
>
> But lots of cardboard wheels and paper samples!
> That's the ticket!
>
>
> Mark Rabiner
> Photography
> Portland Oregon
> http://rabinergroup.com/
>
>
>
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Slobodan Dimitrov
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