[Leica] Digital Module R sensor vs EOS 1D IIS

[douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas M. Sharp)]

Ted Grant wrote:
> Frank Dernie offered:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital Module R sensor vs EOS 1D IIS
> 
> 
>> At the present rate of running down the R digiback it could end up as 
>> rare and collectable as an original MP.<
> 
> 
> Good morning Frank,
> That maybe, however it may open the door for a couple of entrepreneurs 
> to grab the first "working models," put them away waiting to make a 
> fortune later without even taking them out of the box. ;-) Particularly 
> when the announced release is once again delayed. :-(
> 
> By the same token please note I did say...."working models?" ;-)
> 
> I suppose some of the seemingly frustrating comments about Leica and 
> their obviously poor organization along the lines of digital, are 
> compounded by many of their avid fans of multi years dedication to Leica 
> products and it's amazing quality. I don't think there's a much greater 
> "fan loyalty" than those devoted to Leica cameras and equipment.
> 
> However, for the past number of years it's been the poorly run Leica 
> Company, whatever that constitutes and why, but it's destroying that 
> "camera dedicated fan" base due to the inconsistencies of equipment 
> promised, to lack of providing the equipment as advertised and promised.
> 
> It seems the new forever R8 was the beginning of this "promise it 
> for..... to delaying until....." followed by the 3 year delay for motors 
> which compounded every few months as the delivery time was pushed 
> further into the future. Since then the company doesn't appear to have 
> improved it's image at "promising a product to actually delivering it."
> 
> This of course has been a major screw-up damaging their image even more 
> so with any involvement in the advancement of digital. I would have to 
> think that in the "photographic board rooms of the world," Leica must be 
> the laughing stock of the coffee break each day."
> 
> Unfortunately, as we see the constant improvements in digital gear daily 
> from other manufacturers, while Leica valued customers, "read died in 
> the wool forever loyal customers" dying off before the "camera love of 
> their lives" is produced in digital form.
> 
> We have always said Leica as a film camera was a niche market machine, 
> never disagreed with that. However, their constant "it's not possible to 
> make an M camera" digital went on, not for a few months, but for years. 
> But as soon as another manufacturer came out with a body, no not a 
> perfect machine for M replacement, but it appears to be building a 
> following .
> 
> Leica were out within two days with....."we'll have a digital M type 
> body ready in 2 years!" Gee whiz eh?
> 
> Heck what happened in the Black Forest? "the new dawn of camera 
> civilization and modern age of photography lights went on" ? And someone 
> realized the world was round after all and we better figure out how to 
> do this before all we're making is frozen weinerschnitzal for Safeway?
> 
> Now tell me, because someone else is smart enough to actually produce a 
> digital body to take M lenses and will be ready in a few months, this 
> flashing announcement was all it took to turn on the lights to the 
> digital world with a "true Leica type body?"
> 
> Even when most of us are to the death Leica users, if nothing else for 
> their lenses, we see the " 20D, RD1 and other digital versions" 
> appearing daily and growing.  When it could've been Leica making 
> statements of improvements or at least... "here it is the digital camera 
> you've all been waiting for!"
> 
> In two more years for an M type body? And they can't even get the latest 
> version for the R8/9 digi back out when promised, how the hell are we, 
> or why the hell should we wait two years and then be told once again.... 
> " there's a glitch in software and it should be released at the next 
> Fotokina 2010? Or?
> 
> Sorry folks a long rant, but I hate it when a company I've supported 
> buying multi thousands and thousands of dollars, using and promoting 
> their equipment for 50 years and they cant get their act together, tell 
> the truth or are flailing around lost in a world of yesterday while the 
> space age speed of other companies pasted them by completely.
> 
> And quite frankly it's highly unlikely they'll ever catch the pack. Maybe?
> ted
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