Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think the salient point re boke is that it is only of real interest in fast lenses wide open. Obviously the sharpness of what is in focus is important but if the bulk of the frame is OOF, as it almost always is when using a fast lens wide open, the last thing you need is a blotchy distracting background distracting from the subject. If you never use fast lenses wide open it will never be of interest - but then why pay for a Leica lens. For those that do I am not surprised that the quality of boke is considered important by many. FWIW I don't see this harsh boke on my 35 f1.4 aspherical which is my most used Leica lens. It was my most used lens period but now I use digital more. Frank On 18 Nov, 2004, at 23:12, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> The 1.4 Asph gets my vote. >> >> I'm fascinated by the stories of the beautiful bokeh of the old 35/2 >> and 35/1.4 and one day I'll get one or both, just to see. But I doubt >> I would dump my Aspherical lens after being seduced by bokeh. >> >> my 2 cents. >> >> Rick Dykstra. >> > > I'm with Ted Grant whose position has always been I'm pretty sure that > a > shot is more about what's IN focus than what's OUT of focus. > This would or should sound obvious but the way half these guys on the > list > talk about glass it would seem to me mainly about Bokeh. > I think there is a real Gestalt crisis going on. > Things have gotten more yang yin than yin yang. > Be it Bokeh could be the coolest revelation since sliced bread about > what we > peons can understand about the whole voodoo of lens design but lets > get real > here. > Lets get focused. > I'm just not with many of my friends on list and else ware who feel > there is > some negative hard edged Bokeh or elsewise thing about the newest ASPH > designs. > I never met an ASPH I didn't like! > And DO feel I know an ASPH from a hole in the ground. > > I agree with this post of Ricks 100% - I've got mainly current glass > now but > am fascinated by what in time the older glass might do for my imagery. > But > am now there as I just got a mid 70's vintage 40 Summicron Wetzlar a > few > weeks ago. > > I just tweaked 5 rolls I just got back with CD's. > The Bokeh is clearly different than what I think I'm used to. > > Real noticeable because I had lots of little lights in the background > out of > focus in a lot of the shots. They really rendered interestingly. > Actually > almost TOO interestingly and I'm almost thinking the opposite of the > going > opinion that the Bokeh issuers are with the new stuff not the old. > > My gut feeling tells me if you've got a silky smooth look than that's > the > look in the stuff I want IN focus. And I don't want my IN FOCUS stuff > to be > silky smooth. > I want it to be (apologies to Erwin!) SHARP! > > > Mark Rabiner > Photography > Portland Oregon > http://rabinergroup.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >