Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/10/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The atomic clocks are always correct. But there are watchs with builtin radio receivers that automatically connect to an atomic clock on a daily basis to update the time. If you are in the middle of nowhere, maybe your watch won't be able to find a signal. -dan c. At 12:13 PM 27-10-04 -0400, B. D. Colen wrote: >You may well know more about this than I, Bob, but I thought the >"atomic" watches and clocks are continually being reset by satellite, >and thus can be reached, and remain accurate, no matter how remote the >area. > >-----Original Message----- >From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of >animal >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:02 PM >To: Leica Users Group >Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Interview on Zeiss Ikon > > >What you want is a clock with a known error. >One that gains 12 hours a day is more desirable then one that wanders a >minute a month in a random manner. >Those radio controlled clocks are very nice but don,t work in remote >areas. Obviously today there is hardly a need for chronometers with all >the aids >available . >Still it remains one of the desired properties of a super watch. > > >> The basic point is correct, Simon - The Swiss pissed on the quartz >> watches, gave them away to the Japanese, and the Swiss watch industry >> headed for extinction. >> >> Yes, many of the old brands are still around - mostly as play toys for > >> the idle rich. As for the accuracy of chronometers... ...This is >> something you would know far more about than I, but aren't the most >> accurate watches and clocks available those that are directly linked >> to the "atomic clock" in Boulder, CO, watches and clocks that can be >> had for under $150. Granted, they sure don't look as cool as some >> Rolexes etc. But as we've discussed here before, many of us have had >> trouble with getting those beauties to keep time. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >> Of animal >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Interview on Zeiss Ikon >> >> >> That,s not how it went. >> They were not happy merely to produce an accurate quartz watch. They >> wanted to make one that would qualify as a chronometre. For a watch to > >> be certified like that means among other things that the drift is >> known. So one can use it for navigation by noting the time and >> applying the drift >> times the interval after the last setting. >> That was very hard and indeed the japanese conquered the market witch >> watches that with their random nature of drift were amazingly accurate >> over >> time but no chronometers. >> They eventually succeeded with watches like the first dual time chrono >> quartz and the constellation series. >> One could argue that their aim for excellence was their downfall >> somewhat. Still many of the old brands are still around and they make >> the most >> desirable watches.Don,t they? >> best >> simon jessurun >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:30 PM >> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Interview on Zeiss Ikon >> >> >>> Oh, one last thing - The Swiss watch story is one of the greatest >>> examples of all times of an unbelievably stupid marketing decision: >>> for those who may be unaware of it - a Swiss company invented the >>> quartz watch - and the Swiss, distaining the idea of non-traditional >>> watches, sold/gave/licensed? it to the Japanese, resulting in the >>> precipitous decline and near extinction of the Swiss watch industry. >>> >>> And in the story of that disaster are far better parallels to Leica's > >>> marketing practices and views of itself and the rest of the photo >>> world, than are in the Lego story. ;-) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >>> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>> Of Emanuel Lowi >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:12 AM >>> To: lug@leica-users.org >>> Subject: [Leica] Re: Interview on Zeiss Ikon >>> >>> >>> Didier Ludwig wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Comparing Leica vs. digital (today) to swiss watch manufacturers vs. > >>>> quartz >>>> (70ies) makes quite sense. Only the top swiss brands >>>> with the upperclass >>>> mechanical watches have survived this battle. >>>> >>>> Meanwhile, many things have changed. Most of these >>>> brands (not IWC) and >>>> especially the heart of this industry, the clockwork manufactury >>>> ETA, >> >>>> are today owned by the Swatch group - a swiss company, >>>> too, but making it's >>>> money with - quartz watches! >>>> >>>> So the analogy could be Swatch = Cosina?... >>>> >>> >>> Here's another analogy from the local paper's business section the >>> other day. >>> >>> "Danish toymaker Lego Co. said yesterday it has yet to recover from a > >>> financial crisis and expects to record a loss this year despite an >>> elaborate recovery plan that included increased focus on its classic >>> products. The company, whose coloured plastic building blocks have >>> been a favourite children's toy for decades, also said that 18-year >>> chief executive Kjeld Kirk Kristiansen resigned and was replaced by >>> Joergen Vig Kundstorp, a former senior vice-president for >>> corporate affairs. >>> CUT >>> Lego said it had laid off 1000 workers worldwide this >>> year, leaving it with 7400 employees. >>> The company said early this year it hoped to break >>> even in 2004, and said two months ago it was on track >>> to do so. However, sales in North America and Japan >>> were poor, and increased competition from companies >>> like Montreal-based Mega Bloks and price pressure in >>> the toy business has taken its toll, Lego said. >>> Overall, sales in Europe have also been disappointing, >>> although sales grew in southern and eastern Europe as >>> markets opened up. >>> As part of its cost-cutting moves, Lego said it would >>> spin off its four amusement parks into a separate >>> company with an eye towards selling the division >>> completely. >>> CUT >>> The company isn't publicly traded, but has published >>> earning reports since 1997. >>> Founded in 1932, Lego's name was invented by combining >>> the first two letters of the Danish word Leg godt >>> (play well) without knowing that the word in latin >>> means "I assemble." >>> >>> Lego = Leica >>> Mega Bloks = Cosina >>> >>> Emanuel Lowi >>> Montreal >>> >>> >>> >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> _ >>> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >