[Leica] Digital "crop factor"

[luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll (Of))]

For me and very probably for much of us is no important a M digital,
personally I don't need, neither I wan't it; up to this moment UI can't
imagine a M digital with all the advantages of the actual.

For me digital was initially a fashion, now is very probably -
unfortunately - at least for me, the future.

When I was young I maked films as amateur in 8 mm, the  Super 8 was no
so gut, neither the equipments, neither the film, after went the video.
I've never do, neither used a video camera, I've finish doing movies a
lot of years ago.

I hope that when this arrive with the photography I'll be to old.

Saludos desde Barcelona
Luis
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre
de B. D. Colen
Enviado el: viernes, 15 de octubre de 2004 20:52
Para: 'Leica Users Group'
Asunto: RE: [Leica] Digital "crop factor"

Sorry, Feli - This has nothing to do with 'stiff upper lip,' because
while I think it would be sad, from an historical perspective, to see
Leica go belly up, I have no real emotional investment  - and no
financial investment - in what happens to the company. I'm just trying
to inject what I view as a bit of realism into this endless discussion
about nothing.

Keep in mind - First Lecia said it couldn't be done. Then, the
nano-second that Epson announced that they had done it, Leica announced
that it was launching a digital M project.;-) Now comes the digital back
- not full frame - for a camera system that has been a loss leader for
Leica for some time. And now we're talking about whether there will be a
full-frame Leica M after the cropped Leica M? I think the more relevant
question might be how many of us will live to see Leica produce a
digital M, and/or will Leica live to produce a digital M. Or will Leica
die, or be bought up by another company, and sell its lenses to the
people who buy a Zeiss digital "M." (And I am inclined to believe that
we will see a digital M camera from Zeiss before we see one from Leica,
but I could certainly be as wrong about that as the people who said we'd
never see any digital M camera, or, for that matter, the people who as
recently as 9-12 months ago were telling us that digital was just a
passing fancy. ;-)

B. D.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
feli
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:35 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital "crop factor"


Oh, B.D. come one now. Where's that stiff upper lip? ;-)  Let's see 
what happens
and hope for the best. If it blows up in our face, we'll have plenty of 
time to
bitch about it. Besides, someone will probably swoop in and buy them if 
the
shit really hits the fan.

Feli


On Oct 15, 2004, at 11:08 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:

> I wouldn't bet on anything "down the road," Feli. Face it, most of the

> market for the digital M is going to be the amateur/hobbiest market, 
> and how many people in that category are going to pay $5000  to $7000K

> for a
> 1.33 crop digital M and then turn around and pay $10K later on for a
> full-frame model? Damn few. And if people don't buy the 1.33 crop
model
> - assuming there is one, thinking they're going to wait for the full
> frame model, Leica will go  belly up while people wait.
>
> BTW - Where is the digital back for the R? Does anyone have an arrival

> date?
>
> B. D.
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