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Subject: [Leica] Extra photo bag on the plane
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Thu Oct 7 07:07:21 2004
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No you are dead wrong.
The usual average mass per person is 76 kg,s and luggage is set at 18 kg for 
medium distance flights.

The manufacturers clearly put placards in every luggage bin with the maximum 
load.

It,s up to the airlines and the passengers to ensure that that is complied 
with.
Next time read your tickets carefully to see what your obligations are in 
this respect.
Same for dangerous goods in carry ons.Even small things like a zippo lighter 
or a gas haircurler.
There is an industry wide effort to remove the liquor from the cabin.
This results in many major airports to allow tax free sales upon arrival.
The final say is with the purser and cabin attendant at the door during 
boarding.
If they notice unusually large or heavy carry ons they have to let in load 
below decks.
The best airlines are quite good at implementing these rules.Usually there 
are check boxes at checkin were you can test the dimensions and weights of 
carry on bags.Still many are very bad especially in the Americas and with 
upstarts as well.
Point i,m trying to make is that these restrictions are not silly rules they 
are a matter of life and death.
It,s as simple as that.
simon jessurun


> Simon,
>
> I understand that you are speaking from a pilot perspective, but the 
> airlines and Boeing/Airbus are presumably aware of what the average load 
> per passenger is configure the planes accordingly.
>
> Also, funny enough, I have NEVER seen any flight crew object to passengers 
> carrying bags with lots of bottles from the tax-free shop--surely that 
> must add just as much to the load of the plane as Tina's extra cameras, 
> but of course if the airlines clamped down on THAT, then the airports 
> would get quite upset, wouldn't they?
>
> I suspect that the hand luggage limits have at least as much to do with 
> the economic need to get people on and off the plane quickly so that it 
> can be turned around and be in the air again as fast as possible.
>
> Nathan
> (about 50 round trip flights from Schiphol during past year)
>
> animal wrote:
>
>> And don,t worry what will happen to you in an overloaded plane when a 
>> seagull decides to go sightseeing in an engine during your takeoff.
>> Many airlines will prosecute if they catch you cheating like that.And 
>> will ban you from flying with them again.
>
> -- 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Almere, The Netherlands
>
> General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com
> Seville photography: http://www.fotosevilla.com
>
>
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