Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/22

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Subject: [Leica] OT - motor scooters
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Sun Aug 22 13:59:31 2004
References: <000301c4882d$bcaac2f0$0302a8c0@UNSWORS>

Not only are they UGLY they have that incrediblly bad iDrive system
built in. We looked at one, rejected it immediately! and spent some
bucks keeping our '97 540i in tip-top shape. It's still a virtually
perfect car (at least in my opinion.) I mean, when my biggest
complaints are about how the remote door locks work, and the stupid
cup-holders (I'll blame this one on the EU I guess) there's just not
much to improve. I WOULD appreciate a GPS system since here in
California it's no long legal to have a laptop running in the front
seat (even if operated by the passenger) so I can't use Rt 66 and a
GPS for navigation.

I'm on my 2nd catalytic converter though and at $800 each (the first
one was warrenty) I'm a bit grumpy about THAT. You'd think BMW could
buy components that last. (Both had baffles inside that came loose so
it sounded like was dragging a piece of chain - even when the car was
motionless.)

I think BMW is headed in the Wrong Direction using all sorts of
electronic gizmos and then a truly AWFUL human interface that's worthy
of Sony or Microsoft - both of whom haven't had an original though in
human interface design in their corporate lives. I mean, it's a CAR
not a video game! You shouldn't need to run through the iDrive system
to change things that normally you do with one control!

I'm hoping Leica doesn't join this school. I love the R8 because it's
ergonomics for controls are utterly transparent and fall, excuse the
car-cliche, readily to hand. Maybe the digital back will be as
natural. It certainly SEEMS like it should be.

I know I'll wait a while to buy one - letting them go through at least
one firmware revision. And I desperately hope they will let the
firmware be updated from my Mac since I don't own a Windoze machine.

adam

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:52:17 +0100, Steve Unsworth
<mail@steveunsworth.co.uk> wrote:
> Or how a BMW 5 series has been transformed into a Lexus! The latest 5
> series is pig ugly IMHO - no offence to pigs intended. The only question
> I'd ask BMW is why? I'm sure it's a great car to drive (I have an
> earlier - ok _much_ earlier - 5 series myself) but the styling of the
> current model is revolting.
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+mail=steveunsworth.co.uk@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+mail=steveunsworth.co.uk@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of Mark Rabiner
> Sent: 22 August 2004 09:26
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT - motor scooters
> 
> ....They look like someone melted them down half way. Most of the
> character melted out of them. A character of much European design this
> decade. Anyone notice how the Mercedes turned into Subaru's?...
> 
> 
> 
> 
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