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Subject: [Leica] leica collection inherited, for sale??
From: kitmc at vuelux.com (Kit McChesney | Vuelux)
Date: Sun Aug 22 10:07:13 2004

Don--

My reply to Thor didn't have much to say on pricing, but more about what I
thought were the most attractive pieces in the kit and what to keep and what
to shed. I also advised him to offer pieces individually on the list to
folks, as I'm sure LUG'ers will snap most of them up pretty quickly. I also
wanted to check on some serial numbers and dates for a few things just to
confirm some information. That I'll do tomorrow. 

But what I wrote I'll summarize, or paraphrase, here; this is my
opinion--feel free to disagree:

The older camera Thor notes is most likely a Leica IIIf, released first in
1954, with serials starting at 685000. I told him that the next camera to
pick up from there was the IIIg, in 1957, whose serials began with 825001. I
noted that the IIIf is a wonderful piece. I also asked if he could locate
the serial number on the lens of the IIIf, and if it had a brand name, like
Elmar or Summicron. 

I also advised against keeping the CL over and above either the M4 or the
IIIf, or the M6, for that matter. The M6 would sell relatively quickly given
the market for MPs these days, you can get a checkup and year warranty from
Leica on both M4 and M6, and offer that to a buyer to enhance their values
and reliability factors. 

If I were the owner, I would do the following:

Keep the M4 and its meter, and keep the bayonet lenses that are currently
'with' the M6. Sell the M6, and it could probably go for about $1200 or so,
and definitely at $1200-$1300 with the warranty. Worth putting the extra
money into it to make it a sure piece, in my opinion. The Vivitar flash and
Sekonic aren't interesting to me, so those I advised Thor to sell on Ebay,
if he wanted to do so. Or here. 

On the Nikor, I advised Thor to talk to Karen Nakamura, and directed him to
her site, at http://www.photoethnography.com/. I confess I'm not that
knowledgeable on the Nikor issue, so I prefer to defer to the expert. 

I think Thor could probably get more for the whole lot if he were to sell
individually, rather than going into a dealer and trying to peddle the whole
bag at once. What I said: 

"The best way to sell these items is to sell each piece individually to
someone who really wants them. To sell the whole collection at once you'll
lose value. There are folks on the LUG who will pick up these lenses and
cameras individually, and pay you a fair price for each one. I can also
consign these for you for a song, or put you in touch with buyers who want
certain items. I have one currrently who might be interested in the M4." 

How's that sound? 

Kit
-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+kitmc=vuelux.com@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+kitmc=vuelux.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Don Dory
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:45 AM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] leica collection inherited, for sale??

Oh come on Kit.  The rest of us would like to know some one else's
opinion of what the kit is worth. :) :)

Really, I am not trying to cause trouble, but with Leica prices in a
flux and very little coming into dealers hands, values are somewhat
difficult to determine today.

An example would be a clean M6 sitting on a dealers shelf at $1200.  If
it sold in a week then I would know that the price may have been a touch
low.  Likewise, if that same camera was there in two months then the
price was too high. (This all assumes a large enough customer base to
have many potentially interested parties look at the item in a short
period of time).  With the internet, I almost never get to compare
actual cameras to actual prices.

Don
dorysrus@mindspring.com

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of Kit McChesney | Vuelux
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:19 AM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] leica collection inherited, for sale??

Thor--

I'm contacting you off-list for this info. You've got a nice collection
of
goodies there. :)

Kit
-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+kitmc=vuelux.com@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+kitmc=vuelux.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of thor
taggart
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:12 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] leica collection inherited, for sale??

hi Kit
thanks again for your response.
I've decided to hang on the the CL, and to try to learn its use.

The M6 is "minty", no marks or scratches, and has mounted a Summicron
50mm,
#3263162.  I find no serial # on the camera body, except on the hotshoe
(?)
mount.  In the bag with the M6 is an Elmar 90mm, #2643967, and an
Elmarit
28mm(?) # 3276781.  Also in the bag is a Sekonik Studio Deluxe light
meter,
and a Vivitar 2800 flash.

The M4 is # 1192835, and has mounted to the "hotshoe" a Leica MR light
meter.  It has mounted a Summicron 50mm, # 2031026.  It has no dings or
scratches, no brassing, has been used and shows handling.
In the bag with this camera is a Nikor-P 8.5cm lense, #396762.

The older Leica has # 772840, and has mounted a 50mm lense, that pulls
out
from the body.  This camera shows no brassing, no dings or scratches.

Any information you can impart on these cameras is much appreciated.

regards,

Thor Taggart
Chandler, AZ

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