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Subject: [Leica] Re:Do you like a rookie [R-D1]
From: DouglasMSharp at netscape.net (Douglas M. Sharp)
Date: Sun Aug 22 05:49:02 2004
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This is something I was wondering about, according to my knowledge the
limits of the focal lengths
of lenses to be be used successfuly is between 32 and 75mm. Above this
your focussing accuracy
is not on, below there are problems with sensor coverage.
Another aspect appears, IMO, to be being ignored (or I missed it) AFAIK
if the resolving power
of a lens is above the resolving power of the sensor then you start
getting moire and artefacts on your images.
The basic reason for a low pass filter in digital cameras.
As we all know the resolving powers of Leica lense are legendary. Facit,
is the RD-1 really to be recommended for use with lenses of this quality ?
Could this be the cause of those "out of focus " images we've seen, the
low pass filter causes a degree of fuzziness
which compensates or removes the effects mentioned above. Could the low
pass be so strong as to blur the
images ?  Could this be the problem that Leica have been trying to solve
for so long ? The fact that their
lenses are too good.
Douglas


MIKIRO schrieb:

> Hi, Richard,
>
> The range-finder is accurate enough as far as I have used 35/2 and 
> 50/2.8 at wide open, but I myself have not yet tried faster lenses. 
> The physical base-length of R-D1 range-finder is 38.2mm, while that of 
> Leica M is 69.2mm. Thus, in theory, R-D1 (1x) is as accurate as 0.58x 
> M cameras. One photographer who uses R-D1 extensively told me that he 
> only occasionally fails in focusing with 35mm at f1.4 but quite often 
> with 90mm at f2.8.
>
> The sound of the metalic vertical travel shutter of R-D1 has a higher 
> pitch and may not be as quiet as that of M. It is nonetheless 
> comfortable to my ears and helps create a rhythm in taking pictures. 
> In this respect, I prefer R-D1 to Hexar RF and Contax G2. It is a 
> matter of taste, though.
>
> The buffer memory takes two RAW images. Writing data to my SD card 
> (Sandisk) takes four seconds for one image and six seconds for two. 
> With JPG, you do not have to wait in real shooting.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Best regards,
>
> MIKIRO
> Japan
>
>
> Richard F. Man wrote:
>
>> At 07:50 AM 8/21/2004, mikiro@yahoo.fr wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> R-D1 is larger, heavier, and, most importantly, more solid than 
>>> Bessa R2. Indeed, if you have a close look, you will find that it 
>>> shares only a few parts with Bessa. The 1x viewfinder is at least as 
>>> clear as that of Bessa R2. The shutter is much quieter. The shutter 
>>> charge lever is a unique feature of this camera and makes you feel 
>>> that you use a mechanical film camera. It is much smoother than the 
>>> film advance lever of Bessa. Even in a single shooting session, you 
>>> can use R-D1 and M cameras interchangeably with no stress.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mikiro, how do you find the rangefinder focusing accuracy? Many of 
>> the early pictures on the web seem to be misfocused but look like it 
>> may be just due to the shooters? Also, the R-D1 has a short RF base, 
>> but I believe someone says the 1x viewfinder makes it effectively 
>> much longer. Is that the case?
>>
>> How quiet is the shutter subjectively, say, compare to the M?
>>
>>> In terms of image quality, R-D1 is in the same league with my Pentax 
>>> *istD (and probably other D-SLRs with similar sensors). In-camera 
>>> jpg images look a bit dull, and RAW may give you additional details. 
>>> The colour is very neutral. Epson people aim that its images reveal 
>>> characters of lenses by minimising filters and retouches in the 
>>> camera. In this respect they seem to be successful. More work will 
>>> be needed to confirm it.
>>
>>
>>
>> How fast can you take RAW pictures? Does it have a larger enough 
>> buffer so that you basically don't need to worry about it?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, 
>> please use richard at imagecraft.com)
>>
>>
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