Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/02

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Subject: [Leica] Attack of the purple chemistry: JOBO, T-MAX, and XTOL
From: dpost at triad.rr.com (Dan Post)
Date: Mon Aug 2 09:33:03 2004
References: <4cfa589b040801123656e900e6@mail.gmail.com>

Adam-
This may be late as a reply, but I'll give you the info I picked up over the
years. As you know, film is predominately sensitive to blue light, so to
make B&W film panchromatic, the manufacturers added a photoreative dye that
absorbed the blue light, and allowed a more balanced sensitivity to the film
overall.
This dye is in a 'leuco' or colorless state until it is activated by some
developers that have what are know as 'coupling' activity. There are several
developers that can couple the leuco dyes- Para-aminophenol, the developing
agent in Rodinal is one well known example- it couples the dye into a water
soluable 'analone' (as opposed to an insoluable analine) dye, and the
effluent from a development with Rodinal looks like grape Kool-Aid! The
purple color is telling you that the dveloper is working!
The results you seem to be getting is typical- some modern developers use
phenylinediethalamine as a developing agent, and it too is a coupling agent,
and may color the effluent- it is nothing to worry about- in fact, if I did
a tank of film in Rodinal- which I like a lot, and didn't see the color
purple when I dumped it, I would be very worried!
Best of light to you1
Dan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 3:36 PM
Subject: [Leica] Attack of the purple chemistry: JOBO, T-MAX, and XTOL


> I fired up the newly-acquired JOBO ATL-1000 yesterday, popped in a
> roll of newly shot TMAX-100, loaded up the XTOL (a few months old but
> stored in an air-free accordian bottle) and after figuring out how to
> get something of about the right processing time I turned it loose.
>
> The results appear to be okay (I was using 1:1 XTOL and the Kodak
> recommended times as a starting point) but the effluent chemistry was
> a most definite PURPLE. Was the chemistry bad? I've had batches of
> Tri-X that resulted in purple chemistry but not THIS purple.
>
> What gives?
>
> Adam
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