Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/07/26
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decides how much room the passengers get. Most airlines are improving the
seating on their planes over the past few years. My one experience on an
Airbus plane was not a good one as the airline had very tight seating with
very narrow seats and very little leg room. A few years ago, I had to make
a trip to Amsterdam to solve a EMI (Electromagnetic Interference) problem
that KLM was having on a couple of their 747's which was showing up when
the in flight entertainment system was turned on. the plane I worked on
was in the process of having the passenger cabin updated to provide more
room for the passengers. This was all done by the airline with no
involvement by Boeing at all. Unfortunately, I spent the entire trip in
the KLM Maintenance Hanger and did not get to see the city at all. ;-(
Gene
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I take your point but feel that this then rests at the feet of the
airlines and Boeing and AirBus for not building airplanes the way
people actually USE them. I am now firmly in the Air Bus preference
camp - at least as configured on the airlines I have flown they have
wider aisles, fractionally wider seats, and overhead compartments that
will take a roll-on case sitting perpendicular to the aisle so they
take less space. Being 6-3, 280, I need all the space I can get. The
airlines COULD have asked for more/better overhead space in the design
of their airplanes - but they are more intent on squeezing every last
passenger inch regardless of comfort. It's no wonder travellers get
grumpy. (I won't even go into the issue of what passes for restrooms
on Boeing aircraft beyond my desire to lock the designers into one
for, say, a flight across the country, or the Pacific, depending on
airframe.)
It's a curious effect: airline luggage handling got worse and worse so
passengers reacted by bringing more and more into the cabin with them
so they wouldn't have to wait around for 45 minutes or so for their
bags to (possibly) come off the carousel. So we got to live with big
folding bags AND a briefcase AND something else. Which was ugly.
Now it's much more convenient (at least for me) to check as much
luggage as I can so I don't have to worry about taking it through
security although I can no longer lock my bags so I can't put anything
in them I don't want pilfered. I've taken to using a Timbuk2 messenger
bag and a small Domke camera bag which works really well for me
although sometimes I have to use a wheeled bag if I take the R8 and a
long lens and tripod. AND it seems that the airlines are getting bags
out of the aircraft and to the carousel faster than they used to. Or
maybe I'm more resigned to it all.
Adam
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:39:54 +0200, animal <s.jessurun95@chello.nl> wrote:
> Has nothing to do with terrorists.
> It,s just part of an industry effort to enhance safety.
> Nect time you travel look in the overhead bins ,you,ll find a little
placard
> there with the weight limitations.
> These bins were not designed for the loads you typically encounter.That
> means that in extreme turbulence or a otherwise survivable crash they,ll
> fail and cause injury.
> simon jessurun
> amsterdam
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@gmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] About ready to give it up...
>
> > It's when we're at the hands of capricious or arbitrary enforcement of
> > inconsistent rules that we are most often the must frustrated --
> > there's just no personal control for anyone when it happens and it
> > definitely makes one NOT endure the situation that causes it.
> >
> > I remember flying to Australia on Qantas we were limited to a single
> > bag. Fortunately I knew it well in advance and could plan. But I know
> > I'd be very angry to have arrived at the airport to find that there
> > was a weight limit as well as the single bag limit.
> >
> > More thanks to the terrorists!
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:16:47 -1000, Karen Nakamura <mail@gpsy.com>
wrote:
> > > >I think you were unlucky, Karen. For the past year I have flown
> > > >weekly between Amsterdam and Spain (plus other trips to assorted
> > > >other places), and I have not once had a problem carrying my
> > > >Samsonite pilot case with computer, papers etc., and a small Domke
> > > >bag with my cameras. And of course, by the time I get to the plane,
> > > >I usually have a 3rd bag containing various liquid purchases from
> > > >the tax-free shops :-)
> > >
> > > Perhaps. I find it very frustrating because you don't know until you
> > > get to the airport what the policy is. It also seems to vary
> > > depending on the: check-in agent, carry-on baggage screener, and
> > > gate agent. I've been given varying information by these people on
> > > the same flight!
> > >
> > > Some clearer information and training would be good.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > > --
> > > Karen Nakamura
> > > http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/
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