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Subject: [Leica] Digital P&S purchase
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Fri Jul 16 04:46:10 2004
References: <MJEOLJDINGGLJDHEDAGJMEAECKAA.woc2@earthlink.net>

Bill makes a good point, I pretty well never use flash but when I have  
with my Ixus 400 it reminds me why I hate flash pix so much, burned out  
subject black background.
Frank
On 16 Jul, 2004, at 12:27, Bill O'Connell wrote:

> John,
>   Can comment on a few.  Not sure of your budget or requirements but  
> among
> those that I have used;
>
>   Olympus Stylus 400 and now 410.  Plus is size, and water resistant.   
> 4mp,
> nice optics but IMHO, not up to the standards they set with the film  
> based
> stylus.  Flash is not very good and found that indoor shots zoomed out  
> can
> end up with very very underexposed images.  Almost black.  They know  
> of the
> problem but...  Pretty much a phd, not a lot of control available.   
> Have not
> tried any indoor shots with the 410 yet to see if they made any  
> changes (400
> had some problems and they offered a upgrade at a semi reasonable  
> price).
> There is also a 300 version, 3mp. All are 3x optical zoom with an  
> optical
> viewfinder.
>
>   Konica KD-500Z.  Willoughby's bought a boatload of them and sells  
> them on
> Ebay for 298 including shipping and with a spare Konica  battery.   
> Again, a
> phd with no controls but it's 5mp and will fit in a shirt pocket.  3x
> optical with an optical viewfinder. Movie mode with sound.  Uses SD  
> memory
> cards.  Very good optics, especially for a pocket sized camera.  These  
> are
> the original Konica branded cameras that were dumped when they bought
> Minolta.  There is a new improved Minolta version which I never tried  
> but a
> friend that is pretty fussy upgraded his Konica to the KonicaMinolta,  
> and
> promptly downgraded back to the Konica, said the optics were noticeably
> better.  Don't work for Willoughby's, nor Konica, just very happy with  
> a
> camera that is that good for that price.  One of the ebay links is:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> ViewItem&category=30019&item=3827786097
>
>   Olympus 5050, very good optics, 5MP, 3x optical zoom, P,A,S,M modes,  
> fast
> 1.8 lens, lots of control available, very good output, runs on AA  
> batteries,
> takes Compact Flash and XD cards. Hot shoe for accessory flash.  Very  
> happy
> with mine, but more the size of a CL.  Built on same frame as 2xxx,  
> 3xxx,
> and 4xxx models over the past few years.  Been upgraded to the 5060  
> with a
> slower 2.8 lens.
>
>   Canon G5, belongs to She Who Must Be Obeyed.  Very similar to the  
> Olympus
> 5050 in quality, size and operation.  It is her travel camera when  
> lugging
> the SLR is not on her priority list.  Again, very good but may be more  
> then
> you are looking to invest in the project.  If this or the Olympus is  
> not out
> of the price/size range, can't go wrong with either one.
>
>   Panasonic LCxx Forget the rest.  2mp, Leica lens, 3x zoom.  Nice  
> camera
> but by the time I used it I was used to the higher rez cameras and it  
> only
> lasted a short time before it went away to a young man that only  
> wanted a
> camera for internet stuff.
>
>   Hope this is of some value.
> Bill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+woc2=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+woc2=earthlink.net@leica-users.org]On Behalf Of  
> John
> Collier
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:04 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: [Leica] Digital P&S purchase
>
>
> I am getting a digital P&S for my daughter and I am wondering if there
> are any users out there who would like to comment on their choice. Any
> complaints or praise? Good or bad service?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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