Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/07/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]A lens adapter is hardly analogous to an adapter to change the image capture mode. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of robertmeier@usjet.net Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:09 AM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Why a digital M So Graphlex's rollfilm adapters weren't as good as a roll fill camera. That means that no adapter is any good? When Leica brought out the bayonet lens camera they also brought out adapters to use the screwmount lenses on the new bayonet camera. The old lenses worked perfectly with the adapter on the new camera. And still do. No loss of function. No inconvenience. Minimal expense. I would conclude from that that adapters can be the ideal bridge between two technologies. Bob > There's an obvious analogy to all this: > > Several decades ago it became apparent that the old sheet film > Graphics were > becoming obsolete, as photographers gravitated toward rollfilm cameras such > as Rolleiflex and the Kodak Medalist. To meet the demands of a > changing market, the Graphic folks introduce a rollfilm adaptor. > > Anyone else on this list ever use the Graphic rollfilm adaptor? Yeah, > it did work, but....it sure wasn't a Rolleiflex. > > Most photographers opted for cameras that were specifically designed > for rollfilm. Graphic eventually did produce rollfilm cameras (and a > 35 or two), but these paled in comparison with the competition. > > An adaptor to a Leica will still be an adaptor. > > Jim Shulman > Bryn Mawr, PA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+jshul=comcast.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+jshul=comcast.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of B. > D. Colen > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:48 AM > To: 'Leica Users Group' > Subject: RE: [Leica] Why a digital M > > Reasonable? Switch sensors at "nominal cost?" Come on guys, get real. > I wouldn't expect any company to do that - upgrade the firmware for > free? Sure. But not the sensor. > > Face it - what they give you is what you get. And what they're going > to give you is going to be VERY pricey and far from ideal. It may be > 'good enough' for what you want to do, and the price may not deter > you. So buy it and use it in good health. But don't expect anything at > a give-away price; don't expect any real innovation; and don't expect > a camera that is up to the top digital standards at the time of > release. ;-) > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of Leonard J Kapner > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:40 AM > To: 'Leica Users Group' > Subject: RE: [Leica] Why a digital M > > > Bob, > > This sounds like a reasonable if somewhat complicated approach, but > it's not a bad idea if Leica want to stem the tide of defection. But > who knows? It may already be too late, as B.D. has recently > suggested... > > Len > > -- > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+ljkapner=cox.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+ljkapner=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > Afterswift@aol.com > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 9:29 PM > To: lug@leica-users.org > Subject: [Leica] Why a digital M > > > In a message dated 7/12/04 7:23:50 PM, lug-request@leica-users.org > writes: > > << to put it really bluntly, why would anyone in his or her right mind > pay 5500K - for example - for an "M" body when for the same amount of > money he or she could buy an 8 mpg Canon Eos MkII and an array of > Canon's best lenses? >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---- > -- > -------------- > If Leica Solms wants to jump into the digital sea with an M, then let > its > frames show the standard film lenses with the APS sensor subframes and > guarantee > to buyers that Leica will update the sensor frame to full 35mm at > nominal cost > when it becomes available. So the digital M would have modular > construction. > > > >From personal experience with the fast D70 and standard Nikkor film > >lenses, > I > found that the APS sized sensor can produce professional quality > images. The present full 35mm frame 13MP sensor used in the Kodak 14n > leaves a lot to be > > desired from reports I've read. The Kodak 14n is rather ponderous. > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information