Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/07/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]In a discussion about histograms here within the past few months (I think) someone observed that histograms are fancy light meters - and darn good ones since they reflect what the sensor actually records. They are tools, and very very good ones - especially with digital cameras where you want to push your exposures toward the high end (more pixels.) This is why cameras offer increasingly sophisticated zone metering systems. Well a histogram is exactly that carried to an extreme. The rest of your diatribe is interesting if only for its lack of any concept of how I work or how I might use that tool. But it IS a valuable tool. If you don't like the images I make, whether with an R8, an M6ttl or a 10D then that's fine - they are the ways I currently "make pictures." But I know there are ways to help me make more consistent images that match what I hold in my mind when I'm shooting. Since I'm not a street photographer in any sense of the word I usually have time to figure out the lighting, shoot a trial image, mess around, and figure out what works. This will make that process even easier. adam On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:03:43 -0230, Greg Locke <locke@straylight.ca> wrote: > Ever seen the delay, lag time, blurring in these things and have you ever > tried to use one in bright sunlight? > > If you are looking at histograms and other data while trying to make > pictures you will never make decent pictures. > It's no different then doing those stupid focusing formulas. > > If you can't take a picture, a histogram ain't going to help you. > Most people on this list have been taking pictures long before we ever knew > what a histogram was. > > Photography is pretty simple actually. > Set the exposure, focus the lens, compose, and push the button. > We've been doing it a long time. Anything that gets in the middle of this > system or otherwise complicates the issue will actually degrade the > spontaneity and "decisive moment of photography. > > That's it!! It doesn't matter if its film, digital or Liquid Light on Swiss > cheese. > > Any digital camera formats and form factors that think it can be anything > different will fail in the market of professionals and serious amateurs. > > Digital cameras should be no different than film cameras. The only > difference should by CF/SM cards instead of film. > > ...and they ain't there yet on this count either. > > > Greg Locke > St. John's, Newfoundland > http://blog.greglocke.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lug-bounces+locke=straylight.ca@leica-users.org > > [mailto:lug-bounces+locke=straylight.ca@leica-users.org] On > > Behalf Of Adam Bridge > > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:01 PM > > To: Leica Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Digital M LCD Monitor > > > > The ability to view a scene with overlays through a real-time > > LCD on the back would provide a lot of feedback and > > information not available through the optical viewfinder. If > > there is not mechanical shutter in the Digital M then there's > > no obvious reason (to me) precluding it, current practice has > > nothing to do with what is possible since there are no > > high-end range-finder digital cameras. > > > > Live histogram information immediately leaps to mind as a > > reason for making this available although realestate could be > > saved by making this information available through the viewfinder. > > > > Adam > > > > On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:21:01 -0400, B. D. Colen > > <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > No camera with a "real" viewfinder has a real-time LCD, and I can't > > > imagine how the digital M would have one. > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >