Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/07/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Your country is not at war. They make you just think it is. --- > From: Adam Bridge <abridge@gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:36:40 -0700 > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > Cc: jsbridge@idea-processing.com > Subject: Re: [Leica] OT - another horror story about photos and the Patriot > Act > > Ah the joys of adolescent angst! It's sad that he didn't seem to even > THINK about the times in which he's living. In the United States since > 9/11 we're on a war footing as far as security is concerned. For most > students this isn't obvious, but to police and those required to > protect vital infrastructure, it's very real and takes a LOT of > resources. > > If this student had (1) been thoughtful and (2) not waited to the last > minute he would have realized that he was photographing in what is the > equivalent of a WW II mentality with regard to sabotage. > > So what's the right thing to do? Well telling people what you want to > do, introducing yourself to law enforcement, and actually asking for > permission for your project. > > Case in point: I want to sit at the end of the runway at Sacramento > International Airport and take photographs down the runway (from > outside the fence of course) of the aircraft as they rotate and lift > off. You don't even have to be SMART to realize that this will attract > the attention of security personnel. A long lens looks awfully like a > weapon and I'd expect someone to be interested in what I'm doing. > > Critical infrastructure is being guarded. That's real. It's a fact. > Needlessly putting yourself in a position where you are in conflict > with the local authorities can create these situations. Now I don't > know the precise location of the locks in question. BUT...if they were > connected to a passage route for nuclear material from say the > shipyard at Bremerton to Hanford or were involved in the route for the > shipment of other sensitive materials, then I'd assume that local law > enforcement would be edgy, especially around the time of transport. > > There are not many photographers on this list who were practicing > during WW II. I wonder what responses the taking of photos with a > tripod would have elicited from them? Probably not too friendly. > > The same photographer would have had just as nasty a reception if he > had been taking photos inside a rock concert venue. Try it and see. > > I am not saying that law enforcement is not over-reacting. I believe > they are. But they are being told by the Dept of Homeland Security (a > title that belongs more to Nazi Germany than anything American, in my > opinion) that we're in a state of war and they have to protect our > infrastructure from terrorists. That's why a little thoughtfulness, > and a little less concern about issues of control, would do a lot. > > Adam Bridge > > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:11:34 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Frank Farmer > <frankandaubrey@mindspring.com> wrote: >> See Ian Spiers' account of his interation with several local and federal >> law >> enforcement >> agents while trying to complete his 'motion' assignment for his >> photography >> class. Scary >> disgusting. >> >> http://www.brownequalsterrorist.com/artiststatement/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >