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Subject: [Leica] Yeah, But Tina Really Knows What She's Doing!
From: gregj.lorenzo at shaw.ca (GREG LORENZO)
Date: Sun Jun 27 12:16:28 2004

Ted uses his Noctilux in all available light conditions from low light 
operating rooms to full daylight shots. It is a very effective lens 
throughout its range in the hands of good photographer!

Regards,

Greg

----- Original Message -----
From: Buzz Hausner <buzz.hausner@verizon.net>
Date: Sunday, June 27, 2004 12:03 pm
Subject: RE: [Leica] Yeah, But Tina Really Knows What She's Doing!

> Exactly!  The Noctilux is not an instrument to be 
> taken...er...lightly.In the right hands...Tina's, Ted's and 
> Sandy's, for instance...it can be
> a mighty tool.  Merely using a Noctilux does not grant one the ability
> to take pictures like Ted, Tina and Sandy who bring years of 
> experienceand knowledge, and no small measure of talent to their 
> endeavors.
>       Buzz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org
> [lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of B. D. Colen
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 12:26 PM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Yeah, But Tina Really Knows What She's Doing!
> 
> The point, Buzz, is that Tina is very effectively using the lens 
> for its
> intended purpose. And it is quite effective when used that way. :-)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Buzz Hausner
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:07 AM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: [Leica] Yeah, But Tina Really Knows What She's Doing!
> 
> 
> However, Tina, you really know how to use the Noctilux.  I notice that
> nearly all of your backgrounds are very plain and not very deep, 
> so the
> vertiginous Noctilux bokeh doesn't develop.  Also, these pictures 
> do not
> have significant foreground to blur out.  In one case you have a
> relatively deep background, but it is very dark.  The one 
> exception is
> the photograph of Senor Lopez fanning himself with his hat; here the
> deeper background outside the barn door does exhibit the Noctilux 
> bokehthat some among us find quite objectionable.
> 
> The lesson I draw is that a good photographer who knows what she's 
> doingwill use the Noctilux to fine effect.  I only wish that I and 
> more of us
> had some small portion of Tina's talent, ability and experience.
> 
>       Buzz Hausner
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org
> [lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of Tina Manley
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:42 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux defence - How dare you, B.D.!!
> 
> At 04:32 PM 6/26/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> >In a message dated 6/26/04 12:24:10 PM, bdcolen@earthlink.net writes:
> >
> ><< But as I've also  said repeatedly, it's just my opinion - and 
> I'm as
> 
> >entitled to express it as all the folks who eeaxpress their opinion
> that
> >the Noctilux is the greatest piece of optical glass in which 
> they've 
> >ever invested. (And believe me, reading that over and over - and
> looking
> >at uninspiring snapshots taken with the $2500 lens, is a boring 
> to me
> as
> >my comments are to them. ;-) )
> >
> >B. D. >>
> 
> B.D. -
> 
> I love my Noctilux and you will have to pry it from my cold, dead 
> hands!   Do you see nausea bokeh or boredom in content of these 
> Noctilux
> photos? (actually, boredom in the content would hardly be the 
> fault of
> the 
> lens!)
> 
> http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/maria.htm
> 
> http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/weldi.htm
> 
> http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/ordinand.htm
> 
> http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/amilcar.htm
> 
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-29684.html
> 
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-51157.html
> 
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-51159.html
> 
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-60370.html
> 
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-60372.html
> 
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-60387.html
> 
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-60410.html
> 
> And many, many more!  They are all made with the Noctilux and 
> could not 
> have been made with any other lens!  I am not a Leica do-or-die 
> fan and 
> hate their current association with fancy name-brand purses and 
> scarves,
> but they made a killer of a low-light lens that nobody else has even
> begun 
> to equal.  When it comes to taking photos in the dark, nothing else
> comes 
> close to a Noctilux.  I would never use it stopped down in broad
> daylight, 
> but that is not its purpose.  If you can see the bokeh, you should not
> be 
> using the Noctilux!!
> 
> Tina
> 
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> 
> 
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